milk thistle during halodrol 50 cycle

[eramson]

Can any one advise me if it is okay to run milk thistle with halodrol 50???

[vassille]

Originally Posted by eramson

Can any one advise me if it is okay to run milk thistle with halodrol 50???

Can you post your training history and stats also?

[eramson]

50 yrs old,6'2, 243lbs....on my 2nd week of hd cycle

[Casey]

milk thistle is a liver supplement, and since pills are often hard on the liver, I'd say yes.

[eramson]

thanks, im just concerned if the milk thistle would decrease the potency of the halodrol?

[virus]

I'd recommend it.... I heard haladrol is hard on the liver and to be honest... I'd rather reduce my gains (if it does do that, im not sure if it would) than affect the productivity of my liver in any way that I will need my entire life.

[NPayette]

I think you are suppose to load before and reload after, during it may cause a decrease in potency, but I am no expert really.

[eramson]

Hmm, thanks for the advice....I've been running the two together for the past couple of days and I think it is doing something to effect the potency of the HD 50

[vassille]

Originally Posted by eramson

Hmm, thanks for the advice....I've been running the two together for the past couple of days and I think it is doing something to effect the potency of the HD 50

It's possible.....but I do not think is that much IMO
Have to take milk thistle and fish oils, flax oil.

[Adrian7]

Milk thistle has no chemical potency, and yes although the preload and postload of the thistle is more vital than the during cycle, it's still imperative you take it during. It really has nothing to do with the chemical halo.

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by Adrian7

Milk thistle has no chemical potency, and yes although the preload and postload of the thistle is more vital than the during cycle, it's still imperative you take it during. It really has nothing to do with the chemical halo.

Could you explain this in detail please?

[Adrian7]

I read it in an article somewhere. Give me a little time to find it? I was surfing on my phone.

[RRAdam]

Nooo problem.. I am not saying you are wrong or anything... but im curious to see this...

[Adrian7]

What Im saying is all it does is protect your liver, its not a chemical so it doesnt interefere or have anything to do with halodrol or whateve ryou may be taking. Im still looking.

[virus]

Then define chemical? Silymarin, a chemical has a chemical potency in some effect or another. Whether this effects the potency of haladrol is beyond me, but you cannot say that it doesn't have a chemical potency or that it itself isn't a chemical.

Btw, i only mentioned one of the active ingredients.

[skigazzi]

Milk Thistle will not effect the potency of an oral steroid. Thats the opinion that Ive taken after seeing many of the more intelligent folks who wander the many web boards discuss this.

I think what Adrian was saying is that MT will not do anything chemically in the liver to prevent Haladrol from doing its intended job...thats how I took it, and Id agree with him in that regard.

[Adrian7]

Yes, thats what Im trying to say, Im sorry for being a 'tard and not being able to put it so elequently. Witht hat said, Im honestly still trying dilligently to find the article.

[NPayette]

Originally Posted by Adrian7

What Im saying is all it does is protect your liver, its not a chemical so it doesnt interefere or have anything to do with halodrol or whateve ryou may be taking. Im still looking.

No you don't get it... It doesn't interfere with it but taking this stuff does affect the absorbtion of halodrol just like with SD

[Traps]

Originally Posted by NPayette

No you don't get it... It doesn't interfere with it but taking this stuff does affect the absorbtion of halodrol just like with SD

and where have you heard this? Please elaborate.

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by Traps

and where have you heard this? Please elaborate.

Theoretically, if milk thistle actually works, it could raise the efficiency in which the liver metabolizes toxic chemicals (a methylated steroid for example). This could lead to less potency. Personally, I dont think milk thistle works well enough for it to matter (some people say it doesnt even work at all, I think this could be true for some). NAC is probably the best thing for your liver, but once again, it probably doesnt hurt enough to actually significantly decrease the potency of a compound. Like its been said before, the pre and post cycle use of these compounds are probably more helpful.