help me out here guys

[kovalaybolt17]

so my friend goes into a supplement shop in the city. anyways this dude behind the counter sells him some m1t, liv-52 and d-boll. my buddy, who is kind of new to body building bought enough for the both of us with the intent that i would do them with him and be a work out partner and assist him with questions. i am really doubting if i should be taking these at this point in my life.. and im kind of worried for my buddy. but there is a really big temptation for me to use these... after all it is free. anyways from what i gathered the m1t has 12mg of test in each pill.. you take 2 pills a half hour prior to working out, the d-boll, which didnt have a label, had instructions to take 2 of them a half hour before the workout as well. the liver support is to be taken at night.. 3 tablets a day. i still dont know how he got these over the counter but whatever... i didnt understand if it said to take the m1t and d-boll on none workout days so thats one of my questions..

what got me though is the prick told my friend he didnt have to worry about a pct.. just contiue witht he liver support a few weeks after the cycle. i read up on the m1t and it seems to have alot of side effects, which is getting me doubting if im ready to take it.

what would the proper pct be for a m1t cycle?

here are my stats for those wondering

height - 6'
weight - 197
bench - 295
deadlift - 365
squats - havent done max.. ive been working legs at a little higher rep range for hockey.

ive been working out for almost 3 years. id appreciate any and all comments.

[Cammo]

Originally Posted by kovalaybolt17

so my friend goes into a supplement shop in the city. anyways this dude behind the counter sells him some m1t, liv-52 and d-boll. my buddy, who is kind of new to body building bought enough for the both of us with the intent that i would do them with him and be a work out partner and assist him with questions.

The guy behind the counter needs a smack in the head!

You haven't put your age in your post?

It doesn't sound like you've done much research at all into this stuff - I'd give it a miss for now.

[narcsarge]

Originally Posted by Cammo

The guy behind the counter needs a smack in the head!

You haven't put your age in your post?

It doesn't sound like you've done much research at all into this stuff - I'd give it a miss for now.

Hell yes to Cammo's post! BIGGEST MISTAKE you or anyone else can make when using steroids is not knowing WTF your doing! I have no education on steroids as I have choosen not to use them but your post sounds like you know as much as me. READ and educate yourself before you go messing around with things you don't fully comprehend.

[kovalaybolt17]

i completely agree with the both of you, im not going to put myself in a position where i can hurt myself by not knowing what im doing. the guy told my friend how to take them and when.. thats all. i read the sticky on m1t but this would be my first cycle and im not sure m1t is good for a first cycle. the meaning of my post was to get insight from those with experience to judge if id be physically ready for a PH cycle. i will be reading lots on the subject once school slows down.. i jsut want to nkow if im wasting my time thinking about it if im not even ready. i honestly do appreciate both your guys' concern... im going to do my best to make sure by friend doesnt take them.. its just to soon for him. its just temtping for me right now.. 3 years into training, seen good results.. feel they could be better tho..most of all its free so i dont know.

[narcsarge]

If your friend is taking the advice of "some guy" make sure he is educated too. You sound like you have the right attitude about this. Good for you, now make sure your friend treats it the same way. I personally don't take advice about things I don't understand. That person could be telling you all B.S. Better safe the sorry!

[kovalaybolt17]

ya like, the guy at the store is selling an illegal drug to a random person that walks in... he doesnt give a **** if you end up ****ed up because of it, he just wants your money. im just telling my buddy to lay off for a while untill i get better educated about it. i dont want him or myself taking advice from "some guy" that couple be lying through his teeth to get money. i already dont trust the instructions because the dude told my friend he doesnt have to worry about acne, gyno, etc... because it is a mild PH.. after one look at the sticky it looks like youd need a decent pct to even consider m1t

[vassille]

You seem to be on inteligent young man, keep it like that! I did M1T and by no means is a first time starting steroid nor second time or third.... Get my point?

I did not say I did not get any results from it, I was well educated and still I'm about M1T and other stuff and in a second cycle I was getting gyno. I was prepared and nothing bad happened but I just want to show you that this stuff is powerfull, more than you think.

You should train naturally for a while is the best way. If you friend still wants to take it tell him he NEEDS PCT! He also should have Novladex on hand not the one from Gaspari but the real deal.

[kovalaybolt17]

i feel partly responsible for my friend if he does take them... where could a get nolvadex?

[vassille]

It seems to me that the more I answer your question you are the one who wants to take it but because you are young you came up with this story to get the info needed! I might be wrong, but this is what it seems to me like. Listen, I do not understand why is this your responsability what you friend is doing nor I heard of anyone selling M1T today, I think that is just plain dumb. So, with this being said I will stop here and you can tell your friend what I said and let him figure it out.
Now if you are telling the truth I think you need to reconsider the frienship with this guy or take his behavior with a grain of salt.
Both of you are too young to deal with steroids, especially if you don't even know anything about them.

[virus]

Please read the AAS FAQ:

PROHORMONE FAQ - EVERYONE READ IN ITS ENTIRETY!!!

[Traps]

Dont do it. If you do. You're gonna need the same pct as you would any gear cycle. M1T is harsh sh*t.

[joe526]

I find it hard to believe any store is selling real m1t, let alone selling it at random. I bet this is fake if its from a storefront, but if you are seeking advice and just making up a story, I would stay away from m1t because i hear its one of the harshest steroids out there.

[kovalaybolt17]

o i wouldnt belive that you could get m1t either at random. he said the guy selling it just went into the back room and came back with it.. it wasnt on the shelf or anything. but ya im not going to do it untill i have good knowledge about it and feel im ready.

and vasille.. why would i make up a story to get information about m1t.. why wouldnt i just flat out ask about it?

[vassille]

Because many teens have done it before then later on confesed to the BS. I remember other incidents where ppl used the same I "have a friend story" that wasn't true. If you are under 21 which I think you are if you ask for any steroid info to use I would just close the thread. You might be honest but too young to get involed with this stuff. There are ppl that start young and become hard core bodybuilders with drugs and all but there is a price to pay later on. Go have fun and chase girls and stuff and leave steroids alone. This is just an honest man to man talk if you want to listen!

[kovalaybolt17]

ya..i hear ya. im leaving that **** alone.. try to get my buddy out of it but hes pretty hell bent on doing them so whatever, i guess its his body.

thanks alot by the way vasille, you just have to realize its pretty ****ing tempting to do a cycle... ive been working out for 3 years and i see these punks who work out for a month and juice up and all of a sudden there already as strong as me, ill get over it though..lol.