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10-05-2006, 10:00 AM
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Methyl-1
Methyl-1-testosterone & Methyl-1D are the same thing correct? Also they are not considered steriods, right? I know some you in herre not recommend certain supplements and products for certain people, but I was wondering as an ectomorph who has increased weight from 156 to 185 in a year or so of time, would it help me out if I were to take that. Of course I have some more research to go, but I was wondering if I could get some possbile opinions.
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10-05-2006, 10:16 AM
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10-05-2006, 10:18 AM
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Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone. This structural modification makes steroids much more orally bioavailable by inhibiting breakdown in the liver. Although it has only been widely available for a short period of time, feedback on this compound indicates that it may be the most effective legal prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of delivery method, and it is hands down the most effective oral product. On the other hand, most users report a wealth of side effects, and this compound is not to be taken lightly. It does not have a long history of use or a well-established safety profile, and proper precautions should be taken.
The profile of methyl 1-test is similar to that of 1-test – it does not convert to estrogen, and it is highly anabolic and moderately androgenic (less than 1-test). When compared to orally administered methyltestosterone, methyl 1-test is 910-1600% as anabolic and 100-220% as androgenic.
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10-05-2006, 10:24 AM
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So you're saying it is not worth taking right now? I'm just looking for something else to take because I don't even think creatine works for me. I've tried 3 different creatines and I have looked the same on or off of them. Currently I am only on protein and need about 4,500+ calories just to get a little something. I was just wondering if there was anything out there, not steriods, but a legal prodcut that would help me out.
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10-05-2006, 10:26 AM
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SD is not legal anymore 1AD is not legal anymore... You want something legal, M1T is not anyway.
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10-05-2006, 10:29 AM
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M1D I thought wasn't the same thing?
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10-05-2006, 10:31 AM
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Agreed. Its extremely harsh.
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10-05-2006, 10:33 AM
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Here is a random thought:
Post your diet, routine, etc and someone will probably be able to help you out son.
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10-05-2006, 11:01 AM
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7:00 - 6 egg whites, 2 whole egss, 2 pieces of whole wheat toast, glass of milk, 2 fish oil caps, multi-vit
10:00 - 2 6oz yogurts, almounds, protein shake w/ milk, glass of water 12:00 - chicken breast, tuna, or turkey burger with whole wheat buns with a fruit like grapes or bannana, granola bar and maybe a salad and a glass of water 2:30 - chicken breast, tuna, or turkey burger with whole wheat buns with a fruit like grapes or bannana and a glass of water 5:00 - preworkout shake w/ protein and water or no-xplode and no shake 5:30 - 7:00 - workout with protein shake/dextrose & water 7:00 - pwo shake with protein/dextrose & water 7:15 - chicken breast, tuna, or turkey burger with whole wheat buns with veggies and a glass of water *That is my usual diet on a day to day basis depending on what is going on for that day give or take some items.
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10-05-2006, 11:04 AM
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Also nothing to eat after 7:15??? 12 hours without any food, that's a lot... you need to throw an other small meal at 10h and a pre bed time shake around 11-12h30
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10-05-2006, 11:07 AM
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My workout I will describe later but I have to go right now. It is basically core lifts with a 3 day split.
Bench Press Deadlift 2 other assisting Hang & Snatch Military Press 2 other assisting Squat Chinup 2 other assisting They sets for the main lifts are divided into 2 waves Wave 1 Wave 2 4 4 3 3 2 2 Each rep goes up in weight so there is a total of 5 weight changes and every rep goes up in weight for each workout and this lasts for 4 weeks. The other assisting lifts are just sets of 2 with reps from 8-12.
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10-05-2006, 11:10 AM
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Take that 10am meal, make it a bedtime meal, and replace it with some whole foods preferrably meat. Also, you need a meal with meat in between that 230 meal and the 715 meal. Agree with npayette, when trying to add mass you cant go for extended periods without food. Wake up in the middle of the night and have a meal if you have to.
Last edited by mitchcumstein; 10-05-2006 at 11:16 AM.
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10-05-2006, 02:27 PM
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No Limit,
Let me ask you a simple question. Are you progressively lifting heavier weights? The reason I ask is because I find it pretty tough to believe that at your beginning stages of training you are requiring that much of a caloric surplus to gain size, unless you're out running marathons or something.[/quote] Here is the deal. Currently I am doing a 12 week lifting program from the book From Scrawny to Brawny. It is designed towards ectomorphs which I am. Your questions about progressive weight increase I will show you by an example. For instance the deadlift: Wave 1 Wave 2 4 - 280 4 - 300 3 - 290 3 - 310 2 - 300 2- 320 That is what I did for one of the weeks. Then next week I'll do the same except add 5lbs to each of those reps. So far I have been able to complete every one in all of the main lifts that requires this setup which are deadlifts, chinups, military press, squats, bench press, and hang & snatch. That is the type of program I do for all those kinds of lifts. Just for 4 weeks then it goes to something different with different sets and reps and lifts. I have changed my lifting program numerous times and I don't think my body is adapting to anything so that is not a problem. I've been skinny my whole life and from when I started lifting serious a year and a half ago I've gone from 156 to 185 lbs which I'm proud of thus far. It has just been a slow process along the way. I feel the 4,000+ calories for me isn't a stretch and that when I did the recommned calorie intake from the book it was 4,000 for non lifting days and 4,500 for lifting days. After I reach a certain weight, the only way to get bigger is to increase the calories otherwise it will be just maintaining what I have. So you're telling me since the 30lbs I've gained that my calorie intake wouldnt be at least 4,000 now? I will throw in this information for you to use to adjust your nutrition: The three biggest carbohydrate meals should be (in order of carb intake) pre-workout, breakfast, and post-workout. I don't think 2 pieces of toast are going to do a whole lot for you to stop the catabolic shock of waking up and a protein drink pre-workout had better have some fuel in it. I also see way too many consecutive liquid meals. Your body needs substance.[/quote] I was wondering if you could be more specific with what types of carbs and/or how much I would need for those 3 periods seeing how mine wasn't up to par. I appreciate everything you have helped me with but I'm just trying to get the right answers and I believe that all traditional rules don't apply to me considering I'm an ectomorph. I already typed this all out and was about to send it but it said I was logged off so I had to re-type it. If there is something I left out please ask.
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10-05-2006, 05:28 PM
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To answer his original question. Methyl 1-D and M1T are different. M 1-D is a Legal Gear product that is still available. I would assume that it is less harsh than M1T.
http://www.*********.com/p/LG21 No sourcing is allowed.......Thank you.
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10-05-2006, 06:24 PM
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Guys, can we go back to helping me out? So where should dextrose play a role in my diet now with all of this insulin talk? Also M1D still not an option you all say? Finally after I got my original question answered...
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10-05-2006, 07:52 PM
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