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Might be a re-post but it's good info plus I changed a few things from the original.


Thank you goes to Easto and tsingtao

BASIC INFORMATION

This is a guide to help any newbies out there that is in
need of injection info. First off you will need to
know what size needle to use. The smaller the gauge
the larger the needle will be. For example a 20 gauge
pin would be larger than a 25 gauge.

cc (cubic centimeter) or ml (milliliter) are units of
liquid volume and are equal to each other.

1cc equals 1ml

Try to limit your glute injections to 3cc, your thighs to
2.5 cc's and 1 to 1.5cc's for all other spot injections.
Normally a 1cc or 3cc syringe is used for measuring
the amount put in a dart.


22 or 23 Gauge, 1.5 Inch is great for injections into
the glutes.

23-25 Gauge, 1.0 inch is great for injections into the
quads and can be used for all spot injections.

25 Gauge, 1.0 inch is often used for
delts


This is pretty common above on what to use for your
injections. The injection may hurt like a pinch but
you will get use to it over time. You do not want to
inject in the same spot all the time so rotate to
different sites. Helps keep scare tissue down and
keeps the receptors fresh. Also helps if your muscle
is relaxed before the injection.

Always make sure your doing everything clean, clean,
clean!! This is very important fact that no one
should over look.

HOW TO DRAW FROM A VIAL


Wipe the top of the vial with an alcohol swab before
the needle enters. Let the alcohol evaporate
afterwards.

Pull back on the syringe approximately as much air as
you will be injecting. For example if you are
injecting 1cc, make sure to pull back 1cc of air into
the pin before you enter the vial.

Inject the air into the vial. This makes the drawing
much easier.

Pull back on the plunger until you get your desired
amount out of the vial and into the pin. Its better to
hold the vail upside down while you are doing this so
the syringe can be flicked to get the air bubbles out.


Now that you have the amount your are looking for into
the syringe, I would suggest to switch the needles.
It will dull the needle when it enters the top of the
vail so switching is a good idea. A sharp
needle is always a good needle.


BEFORE YOU INJECT



You dont want any infection going on so do not let the
needle touch anything. Make sure all the air bubbles
are out of the syringe. Keep flicking the syringe
until the air boubbles raise to the top so you can
push them out of the needle. Try your best to make
sure you have all of them out if you can. If some of
the juice comes out of the pin. Do not worry it will
be just fine. ( do not put alcohol on the syringe )

Clean the site that you wish to inject in with alcohol
and your good to go.


INJECTION TIME


Quickly pierce the skin and steadily push the needle
into the muscle. Stay steady as you can. You dont
want the needle moving all around. It is always safe
to leave a little bit of the needle showing just in
cause something wrong may happen. For example if the
needle for some reason broke off you want to be able
retrieve it.

Once into the injection site you are ready to
aspirate. This is very important and needs to be done
every single time that you inject. You want to slowly
pull back on the plunger until you see small air
bubbles. This is a good sign when you see the air
bubbles and means your ready to inject. If you see
blood when you aspirate please pull the pin out,
switch your needles and try again.

What is an intramuscular (IM) injection?
A technique to deliver a medication into muscle tissue for it's eventual absorption into the systemic circulation. Steroids, both oil and water-based, are administered this way.


What is a subcutaneous (sub-q) injection?
A technique to deliver a medication into the soft tissue (fat) immediately underlying the skin. Insulin, HCG, and HGH are typically administered this way.


What is aspiration?
To aspirate is to withdraw fluid with a syringe. More specifically, after inserting the needle, pulling back on the plunger of the syringe for a few seconds to see if the needle is in a blood vessel. Rarely, this will be the case and a bit of blood will fill the syringe. If this happens the needle should be removed, replaced with a new one, and another injection site should be used. And yes, if there is a little blood in your syringe, it is ok to inject it along with your steroid once you have found a different spot..........it's your own blood isn't it?

When aspirating, nothing should come back into the syringe if you are in the right spot. Pulling back on the plunger will create a vacuum in your syringe. The oil cannot expand to fill that space, but any air bubbles in your syringe will. You may notice the tiny bubbles getting bigger and bigger as you pull back. They will return to normal size as you release the plunger. If the air bubbles do not disappear upon releasing the plunger, you have an air leak most likely caused by the needle not being screwed onto the syringe tightly enough, although on very rare occassions, the syringe or needle itself can be defective. Either way, purge the air bubbles out, put a new needle on and try it again.


Do I really need to aspirate?
Those who inject without aspirating are taking unnecessary chances. Sweating, nausea, dizziness, severe coughing, breathing difficulties, anaphylactic shock, coma or death can all result from not aspirating. Most of the time, steroid users experience dizziness and coughing fits when they inject into a blood vessel. But you need to be aware of the dangers of neglecting this simple technique that should take about 3-5 seconds of your time. ( aspirating is important but don't worry about too much....many Doctors and Nurses don't do it all the time, and the chances of you injecting into a vein are very small)


What exactly is an abscess?
Abscesses occur when an area of tissue becomes infected and the body is able to "wall off" the infection and keep it from spreading. White blood cells migrate through the walls of the blood vessels into the area of the infection and collect within the damaged tissue. During this process, pus forms (an accumulation of fluid, living and dead white blood cells, dead tissue, and bacteria or other foreign invaders or materials).

Abscesses can form in almost every part of the body and may be caused by bacteria, parasites, or foreign materials. Most of the time, it is caused by unsanitary injection techniques. On very rare occassions, it can be caused by foreign particles your gear (a greater chance of this occurs when using/making a homebrew). The abscesses that we are concerned about are usually reddish, raised, and painful.


How do they treat an abscess?
Antibiotics are often given to aid the cure of an abscess but the real cure is generally surgical. A doctor wouud open the thing up and allow the pus to drain, then the body would take care of the infection. Some have even gone so far as to "drain" their own abscesses by inserting a needle/syringe into the abscessed area and drawing out the accumulated pus, although this is not recommended. ( Antibiotics are great before it becomes an abscess so make sure you have some on hand for every cycle)


Can I reuse the same needle?
No!!! Don't be an idiot!


Can I inject with the same needle I draw with?
Yes, but it is preferrable to switch the needle out with a new one. The needle dulls significantly when pushed into the rubber stopper of your vial or scraped along the bottom of your amp. You may not notice the difference if you inject into your glute, but try injecting into an area that has more nerve endings such as a delt or bicep and you will notice immediately.


Does it matter if I push the needle in fast or slow?
I would recommend slowly, but this is personal preference. A lot of people will tell you to jab the needle in quickly. These people usually stop that practice after the first time they hit a nerve going in at full speed (usually quad shots). By going in slowly, you'll have more time to react if you hit a nerve.

Can I pre-load my syringes?
If at all possible, leave it in the vial or amp. If you need to pre-load, just keep in mind that the syringe must be stored safely. Nothing sucks more than having the plunger pushed in accidentally and losing some of your gear.


Which is the best brand of needle?
Terumo, B-D, and Monoject are the primary manufacturers of needles/syringes. Both Terumo and B-D have an ultra-thin wall design (the wall of the needle is thinner, so more fluid can pass through the same gauge of needle). From personal experience as well as opinions from many other steroid users, Terumo seems to be the sharpest (I do not know if this is true)

I can't get all the tiny air bubbles out of my syringe....
As long as you tap it and get most of the air out, you will be fine. A little air intramusculary won't hurt you. According to the USH2 by Dan Ducaine, it supposedly takes about 10ccs of air injected into a blood vessel to kill you. I wonder how the hell they figured that one out.

I saw blood in the syringe after I pulled out....
You passed through a blood vessel and a little bit of blood entered the syringe on the way out. No biggie.

I pulled the needle out and blood dripped/squirted out....
You passed through a blood vessel. Apply a little pressure with your alcohol swab. You'll live.

I pulled the needle out and oil was dribbling out....
You injected too much in one place or you didn't inject deep enough. No biggie. Try injecting slower or leaving the needle in you for 30 seconds after you have injected it all. This should give the oil some time to dissipate so very little, if any, should dribble out.

I injected into my quad, and my leg was twitching....
You grazed a nerve. Usually it's a good idea to pull out and try another spot.

I don't think I injected deep enough....
If you think you injected into a layer of fat, don't worry. It will just take longer for the steroid to dissipate than it would if you had injected into the muscle. Eventually it will be absorbed. Don't let anyone tell you that you wasted it because that is not true.

I want to mix two different steroids and combine them into one syringe. How do I do this?
Let's say you want 1cc of deca and 1cc of test. First, draw 1cc of air and inject into your vial of deca. Withdraw 1cc of deca and pull the needle out. With the needle pointing up, draw 1cc of air into your syringe (your plunger will be at the 2cc mark - 1cc of deca in it and 1cc of air you just drew into it). With the needle pointing up, inject that 1cc of air into your vial of test. Withdraw 1cc of test. You now have 1cc of deca and 1cc of test in the same syringe. Don't forget to change the needle before you inject.
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High Mg per ML Roids, What you need to know –

1. Most hormones have a pretty low solubility in oil.
2. The primary ways to increase solubility are to
A) add solvent (BA or EA).
B) Add an ester to the hormone. The longer the ester
the more hormone will fit in the oil at a certain mg
per ml ratio. Conversely, the weight of the ester is
also factored in the total mg per ml ratio, so while
you can fit more hormone in, you are getting less
actual hormone than the mg amount implies. Here are
some examples:

Ester actual mg/100mg dose
test no ester 100
tren acetate 87
test prop 83
test enanth 72
test cyp 70
test undecan 63
nand phenyl 67
nand deca 64

This means that if your test cyp says 200 mgs per ml
you get an actual 140 mgs of test. The rest of the
weight is the weight of the ester. If that sounds like
a bad deal you need to understand that test no ester
is VERY insoluble in oil without going to very high mg
per ml solvent concentrations.

This brings up the next point; PAIN!

Why do some shots hurt? There are two primary reasons.
One, the solvent ratio is too high. Anything over
about 10% starts to hurt. BA and EA are VERY
inflammatory to the tissues. That’s why you want ONLY
enough to help your oil hold more gear but not so much
that it causes inflammation.

The second reason is that the gear crystallizes in the
depot. This is precisely why water-based suspensions
feel like hammer blows. The water is absorbed FAST,
leaving the gear to crystallize in the tissues = PAIN.
Even gear in oil can do this, here is how it works. If
you use a low ester weight attached to your gear and
make the mg per ml ratio SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the
oil will hold on it's own, what happens is the body
absorbs the solvent faster than the oil/gear and the
gear falls out of the solution and crystallizes in the
depot and WHAM, it hurts like hell. An optimum
solution has just enough solvent to get more gear into
solution than you could otherwise, but not so much
that what I just stated happens. When the ratios are
correct the gear holds in the solution UNTIL the whole
depot is absorbed and very little or no pain is felt.
Just to end this misconception once and for all IT IS
NOT THE VOLUME OF THE OIL THAT CAUSES THE PAIN, IT IS
ONE OF THE CONDITIONS STATED ABOVE. You can shoot 5
cc's of sterile oil and never know you took a shot. It
IS NOT HOW MUCH OIL YOU SHOOT! So why does everyone
search for super high mg per ml ratio gear like it's
the damn holy grail???

What is too high? Well the length of the ester is
really what determines that but most of us here know
the gear that hurts and know we know why. All tests
over 250 mgs per ml hurt, and actually most of the 250
mg tests hurt too. SOOOO many people want there tren
at 150-200 mgs per ml. Tren acetate should be at about
what?? 75 mgs per ml. That is why all the kits are
designed this way. Do you really think it's cheaper
for the kit producers to add MORE oil to their kits
instead of less? One other quick note. Oil is used
because it SLOWS absorption. THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT
YOU WANT IN A STEROID SHOT! Less oil does not promote
the steady state hormone levels achieved with more oil.

Originally posted by Doom
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I do not endorse all the information on this site, but some of it is helpful....
Be very careful and very well read before you inject anything into your body!!




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