test e - BodybuildingForYou

massive guns · #1 (**permalink**) 09-28-2006, 09:43 PM

before properly researching into starting my first cycle i was thinking about a deca cycle but after researching this site for a few months and realising the ignorance of that, the general view seems to be that the best thing to do is a test e cycle. either used alone or as abase steroid.i am looking to take my bodybuilding to the next level but dont really want to take something which is going to give me a high level of androgenic effects.i natrually have a small fram and so dont want to completely blow up and look stupid. i am abit wary of this.i have a lot of buddies who juice but only 2 of which have taken test.furthermore,one of them stopped not long on to the cycle because of spots.as i have a problem with spots i also think that i would suffer badly from this.any advice/opinions/info.
thanks in advance for replies

Patrick_Bateman · #2 (**permalink**) 09-28-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by massive guns

before properly researching into starting my first cycle i was thinking about a deca cycle but after researching this site for a few months and realising the ignorance of that, the general view seems to be that the best thing to do is a test e cycle. either used alone or as abase steroid.i am looking to take my bodybuilding to the next level but dont really want to take something which is going to give me a high level of androgenic effects.i natrually have a small fram and so dont want to completely blow up and look stupid. i am abit wary of this.i have a lot of buddies who juice but only 2 of which have taken test.furthermore,one of them stopped not long on to the cycle because of spots.as i have a problem with spots i also think that i would suffer badly from this.any advice/opinions/info.
thanks in advance for replies

1) Age
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat
3) Years of Consistant Training experience
4) Previous Cycle experience
5) Training routine and Diet
6) Cycle Goals

STR8 RIPPED · #3 (**permalink**) 09-29-2006, 04:56 AM

Maybe what your looking for isn't gear then bro.. Whats supplements have you used? maybe look into a test booster.. but yeah again have to agree with patrick on this one.. Let's hear your stats bro..

czymex · #4 (**permalink**) 09-29-2006, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick_Bateman

1) Age
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat
3) Years of Consistant Training experience
4) Previous Cycle experience
5) Training routine and Diet
6) Cycle Goals

/\ Bump on that.

massive guns · #5 (**permalink**) 09-29-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick_Bateman

1) Age
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat
3) 4 Years of Consistant Training experience
4) Previous Cycle experience
5) Training routine and Diet
6) Cycle Goals

supplements i have used are cell tech, protein and tribulus.

1)21
2)2 stone (think thats 168 pounds). dont know bodyfat but figuers but i would say its quite low duie to being a natural ectomorph so i havnt got much to lose.just a little excess to get rid when i want to cut up really
3)years consistent training
4)no cycle experience, hence the slight apprehension. this will be my 1st one.
5)diet is fine, 8 meals a day high protein, moderate carbs every 2 hours.
i train 5 days a week mon - fri for about an hour a session, with 6-7 reps. i have the weekends off.looks like this:
mon- chest, 10 min cardio
tue- back and abs
wed - legs
thur - shoulders and abs
fri - biceps, triceps
6) pack on some good size which will enable me to still look big when i cut up.if i had to give an example of what i was aiming for i would say something like the ryan reynolds look when he was beefed up for the ammityville horror.

also am i right in thinking that a sust and deca cycle would be ****??
thanks

massive guns · #6 (**permalink**) 09-29-2006, 09:28 PM

sorry that was suposed to say 4 years consistent training

massive guns · #7 (**permalink**) 09-29-2006, 09:38 PM

should also say my height is 5.9"

Patrick_Bateman · #8 (**permalink**) 09-29-2006, 10:41 PM

5'9'' and only 168 is very small, you really need to put a few more hard years of natural training in before you even consider illegal steroid use.

theara · #9 (**permalink**) 09-29-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick_Bateman

5'9'' and only 168 is very small

i feel very small now, thanks a lot.

massive guns · #10 (**permalink**) 09-30-2006, 11:48 AM

just actually measured myself and i am 5.8".even 12 stone at 5.8" and a very low bf% you would say is too small? even if this is so, i would appreciate your advice on this, if only for future reference. and would i be right in thinking that a sust and deca cycle would be no good for me.
thanks

mitchcumstein · #11 (**permalink**) 09-30-2006, 02:17 PM

Its just a reference point to say youre nowhere near your genetic potential. When you hit 195-200lbs and have a few more years training youll be ready. As for that sust and deca, it sucks for a first cycle.

vassille · #12 (**permalink**) 09-30-2006, 05:21 PM

Sust and deca is a more advanced cycle where you need to know the sides really well from both compounds to get through. Deca acts bizare in some ppl, (I personally love it) and sust is a test blend but I'm not too crazy about it.

Bottom line is this, get your weight up to about 190+lbs then you will be in better position to hold on to the new gains otherwise you can become just a statistic in the gym from blowing up then loose everything and some more.

massive guns · #13 (**permalink**) 10-01-2006, 11:51 AM

il do that then.but fromm what i have stated at the start of the thread, is there any reason you would advise agains test e?, im just a bit wary of going from using nothing at all to starting a frist cycle using what seems to be a very powerfull steroid in test-e with a greater potential for androgenic effects as advised by most on this site to use for a first cycle. the reason i was interested in deca was that it seemed to be not as strong and although i am wanting to pack on some good size, would be better for making me look sort of lean.but as i said, that was before i researched it properly and found out that deca alone would be a bad idea for reasons such as losing gains, deca dick etc. i will take your advice and try to put on some more size naturally (as hard as i am findin it to do at the mo) but i am wanting to get everything sorted for when i do start taking juice so i make the best decisions for my cycle.

massive guns · #14 (**permalink**) 10-01-2006, 12:18 PM

one more q. might sound like a stupid question to some of you but if you are planning on doing one cycle and cycle only, would this in any way hinder yuor effects of gaining muscle when training naturally afetr steroid use? one reaon i say this is you hear of people being left with a low test level afterwards and if your test level is lowered does that not make a difference? is your test level only lowered if you do not do proper pct?

vassille · #15 (**permalink**) 10-01-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by massive guns

il do that then.but fromm what i have stated at the start of the thread, is there any reason you would advise agains test e?, im just a bit wary of going from using nothing at all to starting a frist cycle using what seems to be a very powerfull steroid in test-e with a greater potential for androgenic effects as advised by most on this site to use for a first cycle. the reason i was interested in deca was that it seemed to be not as strong and although i am wanting to pack on some good size, would be better for making me look sort of lean.but as i said, that was before i researched it properly and found out that deca alone would be a bad idea for reasons such as losing gains, deca dick etc. i will take your advice and try to put on some more size naturally (as hard as i am findin it to do at the mo) but i am wanting to get everything sorted for when i do start taking juice so i make the best decisions for my cycle.

Test e is a good starting steroid. 10 weeks at 400-500mg/week with 2xweek injections. About deca, I understand your dilema but in time after the first cycle of test-e you can look at deca and make a decission then. You prob going to know more by then too. Always do test/deca combo when using deca.
Eat a lot more, or find ways to eat a lot more. Once you get that under your belt and start gaining some weight naturally keep doind it until you reach your goal.

vassille · #16 (**permalink**) 10-01-2006, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by massive guns

one more q. might sound like a stupid question to some of you but if you are planning on doing one cycle and cycle only, would this in any way hinder yuor effects of gaining muscle when training naturally afetr steroid use? one reaon i say this is you hear of people being left with a low test level afterwards and if your test level is lowered does that not make a difference? is your test level only lowered if you do not do proper pct?

You can still gain muscle after steroid use naturally. It will not be as much as on steroids but you will.
However, if you have a bad PCT or NO PCT, it may take up to 10 weeks for the natural test levels to come back. With proper PCT it usually takes about 30-45 days.
Its kind of complicated to explain all of your questions right now, but in general yes while on a cycle natural test levels are low to non existant. That's why you need PCT to get those natural test levels back.
There are many compounds that ppl take while on cycle to prevent a numbers of things and as you read more you will find out that there is more than one way to do a cycle.