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Old 09-25-2006, 08:20 PM
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I have been doing some research on IGF and have found some good info, but I havent found much information on possible side effects. If any of you know first hand of any please let me know or where I can find a good article of specific side effects I would appreciate it.. thinking of running

wk 1-10 test e 500mgwk
wk 1-12 gh 3-5 iu 5/2 off
wk 1-4 igf 60 mcg im pwo, mornings non-workout
wk 9-15 igf same

any suggestions are appreciated
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Bro's,

I have been doing some research on IGF and have found some good info, but I havent found much information on possible side effects. If any of you know first hand of any please let me know or where I can find a good article of specific side effects I would appreciate it.. thinking of running

wk 1-10 test e 500mgwk
wk 1-12 gh 3-5 iu 5/2 off
wk 1-4 igf 60 mcg im pwo, mornings non-workout
wk 9-15 igf same

any suggestions are appreciated
How many cycles have you done before?
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Bro's,

I have been doing some research on IGF and have found some good info, but I havent found much information on possible side effects. If any of you know first hand of any please let me know or where I can find a good article of specific side effects I would appreciate it.. thinking of running

wk 1-10 test e 500mgwk
wk 1-12 gh 3-5 iu 5/2 off
wk 1-4 igf 60 mcg im pwo, mornings non-workout
wk 9-15 igf same

any suggestions are appreciated
IMO, I would save the GH until you can get more than a 12 week cycle, and if you don't know much about IGF-LR3, you should'nt run both peptides for your 1st cycle. As far as sides w/ igf, I was told insane pumps, I mean pumps that hurt, headaches, and possibly going hypo especially if your gonna run GH w/ it, so keep some ultra fuel w/ you.
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Thanks bro,

I should have about a 6 month supply of GH, but i would rather not run it at all and just do the igf w/ test.
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Don't run your IGF ed, run it at 40 mcg 2-3 times per week. It has a half life of 12 hours and a mechanism of action of ~72 hours(once it has told a cell to do something, the intracellular reaction continues for 72 hours). If you run it this way your IGF will also last you longer and it won't lose effect after 4 weeks as it will if you run it ed. 40 mcg is also a dose that won't overwhelm receptors, if you're running it 3 times a week I'd probly recommend you go with 30 mcg.
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I have run gh twice before and run plenty of AAS over the years, but I have never taken IGF or obviously run IGF and GH together. What are the problems associated with running both together, and if I do run them both together how should I run them. I was thinking from research and suggestions;

week 1- letro
week 2- letro
week 3- test e 250mg, letro 2.5 ed
week 4- test e 500mg, letro 2.5 ed
week 5- gh 3iu 5/2off, letro, test e 500mg
week 6- gh 3iu 5/2off, letro, test e 500mg
week 7- gh 3iu 5/20ff, letro, test e 500mg
week 8- gh 3iu 5/2off, letro, test e 500mg
week 9- igf 40mcg 2days, gh 3iu 5/2off, clomiphene 100mged, test e 500mg
week 10-14 same, taper off test e
week 14-20 igf 40mcg 2 days, gh 3iu 5/2off, clomiphene 100mg ed
week 14-24 igf 40mcg 2days, clomiphene 100mg
week 24-28 50mg clomiphene
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Thanks bro's feel free to critique and suggest changes..
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I have run gh twice before and run plenty of AAS over the years, but I have never taken IGF or obviously run IGF and GH together. What are the problems associated with running both together, and if I do run them both together how should I run them. I was thinking from research and suggestions;

week 1- letro
week 2- letro
week 3- test e 250mg, letro 2.5 ed
week 4- test e 500mg, letro 2.5 ed
week 5- gh 3iu 5/2off, letro, test e 500mg
week 6- gh 3iu 5/2off, letro, test e 500mg
week 7- gh 3iu 5/20ff, letro, test e 500mg
week 8- gh 3iu 5/2off, letro, test e 500mg
week 9- igf 40mcg 2days, gh 3iu 5/2off, clomiphene 100mged, test e 500mg
week 10-14 same, taper off test e
week 14-20 igf 40mcg 2 days, gh 3iu 5/2off, clomiphene 100mg ed
week 14-24 igf 40mcg 2days, clomiphene 100mg
week 24-28 50mg clomiphene
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Thanks bro's feel free to critique and suggest changes..
I never found any benefit from tapering off AAS. Do you?
Also, take IGF-1 10-15min after work out. I think that 40mcg is too high but you only take it 2x a week. I know some ppl who take it 10-20mcg daily for 30 days then take 2 weeks off, then repeat this for 3 cycles/ Then take 2-3 months off.
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Just take IGF on training days pwo, as far as saturating your receptors, that is why you take no longer than 5 weeks and 5 weeks off. Your Letro dose @ 2.5mg/ed is imo overkill. Knowledgeable (sp?) have told me .5 mg/ eod is efficient, I would go 2.5mg/ every 3 days, some estrogen is needed for gains.
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