An ester question.

[B4n3 0n3]

I am wondering if EQ takes longer to kick in than test e. I seem to have heard that EQ is a very long ester so it takes longer for it to kick in than test enan. If this is the case would you advise me to start a cycle with EQ only for a couple weeks and then on the third week start the test e?

[vassille]

I don't think that's necessary, however you need to stop EQ earlier than test enan at the end of cycle. I would give it about 3 weeks to exit your system

[Caferacer]

Originally Posted by B4n3 0n3

I am wondering if EQ takes longer to kick in than test e. I seem to have heard that EQ is a very long ester so it takes longer for it to kick in than test enan. If this is the case would you advise me to start a cycle with EQ only for a couple weeks and then on the third week start the test e?

It takes a long time to kick in. I've heard 8-10 weeks to fully get moving.

If you're going to run EQ, just start it with the test and extend the cycle a little.

[B4n3 0n3]

Originally Posted by Caferacer

I've heard 8-10 weeks to fully get moving.

Now if this is the case then I would be inclined to start the EQ a little earlier than the test considering that they say test e will take 4-5weeks to kick in.

And then at the end of the cycle stop the eq 2-3 weeks before stoping the test e.

[Caferacer]

Originally Posted by B4n3 0n3

Now if this is the case then I would be inclined to start the EQ a little earlier than the test considering that they say test e will take 4-5weeks to kick in.

And then at the end of the cycle stop the eq 2-3 weeks before stoping the test e.

Stopping the EQ early is fine. Start without test is probably not. It will shut you down pretty hard if you don't have test run with it.

I know you haven't run a first cycle yet, you could try something like a low dose test with 600mg or so EQ cycle for 12-15 weeks.

[vassille]

Originally Posted by B4n3 0n3

Now if this is the case then I would be inclined to start the EQ a little earlier than the test considering that they say test e will take 4-5weeks to kick in.

And then at the end of the cycle stop the eq 2-3 weeks before stoping the test e.

EQ is a stronger variation of deca comparatively speaking. If this is your first encounter with EQ use only about 300-400mg/week with test. Without test you are going to get a complete shut off. I would not recomend starting EQ without test unless you do not want to have sex anytime soon

[Caferacer]

Originally Posted by vassille

EQ is a stronger variation of deca comparatively speaking. If this is your first encounter with EQ use only about 300-400mg/week with test. Without test you are going to get a complete shut off. I would not recomend starting EQ without test unless you do not want to have sex anytime soon

Every account I have seen says that 400mg EQ is damn near useless. Especially considering the price, running 400mg to not see anything is an expensive decision.

[B4n3 0n3]

Right on, I was thinking about doing the EQ at 400mg. The part I can't get my head around is this, if the EQ takes like 8-10 weeks to kick in how will I get shut down by starting it a couple weeks before the test?

[vassille]

Originally Posted by B4n3 0n3

Right on, I was thinking about doing the EQ at 400mg. The part I can't get my head around is this, if the EQ takes like 8-10 weeks to kick in how will I get shut down by starting it a couple weeks before the test?

EQ does not kick in 10 weeks. It's more like 3-4 weeks. EQ ia a little longer ester than deca but not by much

[B4n3 0n3]

Ok then I will start right along with the test and end the EQ a couple weeks before the test.

[vassille]

Originally Posted by B4n3 0n3

Ok then I will start right along with the test and end the EQ a couple weeks before the test.

at the end stop it 3 weeks before

[B4n3 0n3]

Ok, got it three weeks.

[vassille]

Originally Posted by B4n3 0n3

Ok, got it three weeks.

Good luck

[B4n3 0n3]

The more I think about it the more I want to just start the cycle right away. But I think that I should try different methods like diet and routine changes to break through my plateu like Mr. Bateman has said. Right now I am just experimenting with different number of off days to avoid overtrainning. When I start my cycle I plan on drastically reducing my off days.

[mywetnightmares]

EQ is weaker than test so it should be run at least at the dose that your test is run if not higher to account for the longer ester. I've heard that 600 mg is a good starting dose and when I run it trans this spring I'm going to be running a dose equivalent to that.

[B4n3 0n3]

Well I have enough EQ and test to run test at 500 for 15 and EQ at 500 for 12 so that would work about perfect then.

[vassille]

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[mitchcumstein]

Usually you stop the EQ 1 week before the test. If you look at any decent pct schedule, youll see you start 14days after last shot for test cyp or enan, and 21 days for eq. That pretty much sums it up.

[B4n3 0n3]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Usually you stop the EQ 1 week before the test. If you look at any decent pct schedule, youll see you start 14days after last shot for test cyp or enan, and 21 days for eq. That pretty much sums it up.

Well as long as I still have the test going it wouldn't hurt to drop th EQ sooner would it?

[mitchcumstein]

No, not at all. Run the test for 12 weeks, quit the eq at 11. or whatever. Thats the idea. Either that or you can quit both at the same time but wait 3 weeks to start PCT. Id choose the first if it were me.