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[sauron]

hi,

i am new to this forum, and would compliment the users and administrators for the good work they are doing.

i am 27, and have done 3 cycles in the past mainly dbols, test enhate, primo, equip, and deca.

i had to stop training due to some personal problems and obviously lost all the muscle i had gained.

i started training recently and am thinking of doing a cycle and you like your opinion.

it will be just deca and proviron.
week 1 100mg
2 - 200mg
3 - 300
4 - 400
5 - 400
6 - 300
7 - 100
8 - 100

1 tab poviron every day
finish with clomid.

what do you think, should i get any gains, or achne with this type of cycle?

[mitchcumstein]

You shoudnt run deca without test. Its just asking for erectile problems. Ever heard of Deca Dick? Test should be higher than deca too. I wouldnt do that ramp either. 500mg test wk and 300mg deca a week. The proviron will keep the bloat down.

[ryanbodybuilder]

you should run 500mg of test enan for 6-12 weeks with 1 tab at dinner time of proviron! you will feel like a god, and have great results!

[mitchcumstein]

Thats not a bad idea either to drop the deca altogether. Dont run test enan for 6 weeks though. Its a long ester and takes 4 weeks to kick in. thats only 2 weeks of gains and would be kind of a waste. run it for 10 weeks min.

[sauron]

thanks for the advice, but if i dont manage to get hold on enathe would suston be ok?
and was thinking of doing 2 tabs proviron one in the moriing and one evening.

[mitchcumstein]

Sust would be even better. Youve ran cycles before so you know what the deal is. 3 pokes a week for sust but youll get results immediately. 25mg/day is plenty for the proviron.

[surferph34]

I would go for:

W 1 – 10: Test E 500mg EW
W 12 – 16: PCT

PCT:

Day 1 Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 60mg
Day 2 – 11 Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Day 12 - 21 Nolvadex 20mg

Just nice and simple as your just starting up again and take it from there.

You should'nt see much bloat on that so I would not even bother with the Proviron. Just make sure your consuming enough water and keeping sodium levels low.

Surfer

[sauron]

again thanks a lot,
yes i have done cycles but i completely forgot the basics and lost all the information i had about them.
i shall start this friday, will keep you updated with the gains.

[meera]

Originally Posted by sauron

again thanks a lot,
yes i have done cycles but i completely forgot the basics and lost all the information i had about them.
i shall start this friday, will keep you updated with the gains.

Starting a diary would be the best way to go with that mate.

[sauron]

yes i had everything writtin down with the gains and the diets i was doing while on but when i moved home i lost them.
do you think i should take nolvadex during the course or it is not needed. just take it after the cycle

i used to take half arimedx daily but also was doing dbols and test and primo.

[SICKOFITALL]

Originally Posted by sauron

yes i had everything writtin down with the gains and the diets i was doing while on but when i moved home i lost them.
do you think i should take nolvadex during the course or it is not needed. just take it after the cycle

i used to take half arimedx daily but also was doing dbols and test and primo.

Only take nolva if you see signs of gyno.

[ResearchChemsOnline]

Nolvadex isn't a bad idea during any cycle for its positive effect on HDL.