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Old 06-08-2006, 04:10 PM
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Default I'm no newbie, but I'm confused...

I've been researching all the new 'ProHormones' out there such as Phera*, *Drol and the rest. I'm assuming we're all on the same page as far as the reality that these are potent (in terms of affects) and as close to real 'roids or even considered 'roids. It's probably a pretty good time to be lifting as these appear to help add size and strength.

I'm interested in Generic Labz X-Mass or Phera-Max coupled with Designer Supplement's Rebound XT for a slight weight gain boost. My concern and confusion is regarding the X-Mass which is a copy of Alri LMG. The statement is this:

Progestins do not aromatize to estrogens and being a 5-alpha-reduced analog prevents conversion to DHT. It is important to remember that being 5-alpha-reduced also means it is related to DHT.

Another section of confusion is the PheraPlex statement:

At this point its effects on the hairline and prostate are unclear, as a strong androgen we would expect it would not be friendly here, but testers reported no problems.

So, basically...is there is non-hair affecting 'ProHormone'?? I have minoxidil, does that help against DHT?? Another question is, if I used the product for 3 weeks followed by 3 weeks of Rebound XT, would these negative side affects be minimized and/or stopped??

Does anyone have any experience with Hair loss on these products mentioned?? My other option is Equipoise as I feel the appetite and decent gains from this product make it the safest roid around. Does anyone have any Rebound XT solo cycles experience??

I'm 27, 5'10'' 160ish been lifting to 7 years. Did roids at 20.

I would like to avoid the 'Search First Not Ready for PHs' replies.

Joseph
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:30 PM
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I've been researching all the new 'ProHormones' out there such as Phera*, *Drol and the rest. I'm assuming we're all on the same page as far as the reality that these are potent (in terms of affects) and as close to real 'roids or even considered 'roids. It's probably a pretty good time to be lifting as these appear to help add size and strength.

I'm interested in Generic Labz X-Mass or Phera-Max coupled with Designer Supplement's Rebound XT for a slight weight gain boost. My concern and confusion is regarding the X-Mass which is a copy of Alri LMG. The statement is this:

Progestins do not aromatize to estrogens and being a 5-alpha-reduced analog prevents conversion to DHT. It is important to remember that being 5-alpha-reduced also means it is related to DHT.

Another section of confusion is the PheraPlex statement:

At this point its effects on the hairline and prostate are unclear, as a strong androgen we would expect it would not be friendly here, but testers reported no problems.

So, basically...is there is non-hair affecting 'ProHormone'?? I have minoxidil, does that help against DHT?? Another question is, if I used the product for 3 weeks followed by 3 weeks of Rebound XT, would these negative side affects be minimized and/or stopped??

Does anyone have any experience with Hair loss on these products mentioned?? My other option is Equipoise as I feel the appetite and decent gains from this product make it the safest roid around. Does anyone have any Rebound XT solo cycles experience??

I'm 27, 5'10'' 160ish been lifting to 7 years. Did roids at 20.

I would like to avoid the 'Search First Not Ready for PHs' replies.

Joseph
Heres the way I look at it.

These products are being banned basically cause the ingredients on the label dont match the ingedients in the pill. Well, halodrol anyhow. So why believe them when they say they wont aromatize. Gyno is nothing to mess around with. furthermore, DO NOT USE REBOUND XT. There have been several cases of delayed onset Gyno. Use real nolva and clomid. Treat it like any other steroid. If you dont have a predisposition to Male pattern baldness, no worries. If you do, use minoxidil and even propecia and youll be all set. In fact, the propecia will allow more free test in the body which is a bonus. EQ on its own wont give you a bunch of gains. Itll lean you out and help you maintain. Itll shut you down tighter than a frogs ass too if you run it alone. It really needs to be stacked with test if you wanna add any significant muscle.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:07 PM
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I had a feeling the labels were full of it, but the product still works as far as I can tell.

I'm very suprised to hear about the Rebound Xt causing gyno. I read it may even help existing puffyness.

Well, I'm not predisposed to MPB but I'll stay away due to your recommonendations.

I've been having the hardest time gaining for years, so I was going to 'give in' and make a choice to use roids again but felt these pills were somehow less dangerous than the real deal. Especially since 10 pounds on me will look fantastic this summer, but a full head of hair looks better.

Thank you very much for your post!!!
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I had a feeling the labels were full of it, but the product still works as far as I can tell.

I'm very suprised to hear about the Rebound Xt causing gyno. I read it may even help existing puffyness.

Well, I'm not predisposed to MPB but I'll stay away due to your recommonendations.

I've been having the hardest time gaining for years, so I was going to 'give in' and make a choice to use roids again but felt these pills were somehow less dangerous than the real deal. Especially since 10 pounds on me will look fantastic this summer, but a full head of hair looks better.

Thank you very much for your post!!!
Yeah, do a search on the rebound gyno, its all over the place. Just to clarify on the MPB, I did say you have no worries if youre not predisposed. As for the ingredients, they found a designer steroid in halodrol50 that very closely resembled oral turanibol. Why does halo work so well...Hmmmmm. check this out.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112901636.html

Thats cool though if you dont wanna take these PHs. I wouldnt.
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Old 06-08-2006, 09:07 PM
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Default LiquiFem - Femera (Letrozole)

I found a place on the internet that sells LiquiFem - Femera (Letrozole). I would like to have my nipples not look so puffy. I've read this will help, since you said rebound XT is no good.

Is this topical or oral?
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Old 06-08-2006, 09:17 PM
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