Also starting first cycle NEED INFO

[Mr.O 2010]

Hey,

I'm 22 and I've been lifting for about 2 years now. I'm about 190 lbs 17% bodyfat. I'm aiming to become a bodybuilder, but I have the strength of a power lifter. I've done some research on A.S. and I decided to just run about 500mg of test E. every week and for PCT either Nolva. or Clomid. I hope I'm not too young to be doing this stuff. Oh and when do you think most PRO bodybuilders start using this stuff (Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Gunter, Phil Heath, which is 25 by the way)

[mitchcumstein]

Yeah youre a little young but at least you got a couple years of training under your belt unlike alot of people in their early 20's who train a couple of months and want to jump on the aas bandwagon. 500mg Test e for 10weeks is a good first cycle. I would suggest hcg also. 250iu 2x week for 10 weeks. Keeps the testes from disappearing. Makes pct alot easier. Still, you should hold off a couple of years and use all that natural test you got now and just lift and eat.

[vassille]

Do you have any idea what pro body builders have to go through and the shiet they take?
Taking 500mg of test is used to bridge between cycles and a cycle is comprised of 4-5 items. The average drug bill is about $100k per year. How much money do you have to spend?
I do not mean to dissapoint you but those guys are nuts and they will push themselves to the extremes not to mention that they have good genetic make as well. Good luck

[Mr.O 2010]

Yea right! Their bill cannot possibly be 100K a year! At most it would be 6k. and what do you mean its used to bridge between cycles?

[SICKOFITALL]

Originally Posted by Mr.O 2010

Yea right! Their bill cannot possibly be 100K a year! At most it would be 6k. and what do you mean its used to bridge between cycles?

Go ahead and figure it out, pharma grade gear at super high dosages and you're looking at a massive amount of money. Go find some prices for HGH and 6k wouldn't even scratch the surface for most pro's. Now, most of them probably get the gear either for free or heavily discounted, but the cost for the average person is astronomical.

[vassille]

Originally Posted by SICKOFITALL

Go ahead and figure it out, pharma grade gear at super high dosages and you're looking at a massive amount of money. Go find some prices for HGH and 6k wouldn't even scratch the surface for most pro's. Now, most of them probably get the gear either for free or heavily discounted, but the cost for the average person is astronomical.

This kid is gullible isn't he Sickofitall!
He does not even know what bridging is and wants to be a pro body building, ouch....

Bridging is when you stay on gear year around and in between cycles, in order to avoid the down time, people take a "low" dose of test to give their body a break but not loose their muscle.

Between food and gear 100K a year is a very real number my friend

[SICKOFITALL]

Their "low dose" of test is pretty much what I take a week on cycle. If I didn't have a good u/g source, I don't know how interested I would be in doing it year round at pharma prices!

Its not just the money either, its the absolute dedication that it takes to become a pro that would kill me. I look forward to my workouts, but if it became "work" would it be the same? 2 or 3 workouts a day would be a chore as opposed to pleasure.

[vassille]

Originally Posted by SICKOFITALL

Their "low dose" of test is pretty much what I take a week on cycle. If I didn't have a good u/g source, I don't know how interested I would be in doing it year round at pharma prices!

Its not just the money either, its the absolute dedication that it takes to become a pro that would kill me. I look forward to my workouts, but if it became "work" would it be the same? 2 or 3 workouts a day would be a chore as opposed to pleasure.

You are right, that 's a 365days a year dedication! There is no taking off for a couple of weeks to drink and hang out either