Superdrol for my old man

[kenseth17cd]

My dad is 47 years old 5-7 170-175 pounds. He has been lifting since he was about 18 religiously. He has took gear cycle this past month, other than that he doesn't take any supps. I have a bottle and half of sd left over and he is thinking about taking it. My question is what kind of gains could he expect on a 20/20/20. Or if he just did 2 weeks at 20/20. He is wanting to lose a little of the old man gut. Do you think this would help him go up on his bench since he is old. He maxes between 360-375 and I would love to see him get to 400. That would make his world. Do you think this would do it and also what kind of pct would he need.

[kenseth17cd]

Gear cycle is made by fizogen. It is not a pro-hormone. Just another junky supp that doens't work from what I see. Sorry that I wasn't more clear, I thought everyone had heard of this stuff. It goes with their blitz cycle and mass cycle products, all junk I think.

[kenseth17cd]

He says is afraid that it will hurt him or something, but he doesn't have any health conditions and he is in good shape. Do you guys think it would be okay for him to take it.

[t_dot_porkchop]

Originally Posted by kenseth17cd

Do you guys think it would be okay for him to take it.

no its not ok.....SD is liver toxic. how is his liver and general health? your dad is 170, old, with a gut, and benches 375?

be specific. will it put on muscle: YES. is it safe: NO.

[dupa95]

loose the gut? DHEA and lots of cardio.

[Filtallica]

i would agree i would never touch any of that stuff no matter if it makes you bigger or not.

[TRAZ]

You just can't let go of the whole Superdrol thing can you Kenseth17...

[TRAZ]

No...He doesn't need to take it...

[joe526]

I think he might be asking for himself rather than his dad.

[ryanbodybuilder]

kenseth i thought you were 47?

[krenalor]

Kenseth17cd decided rather wisely to discontinue his steroid use and has some SD left. Should your Dad take it? No, but will he? I am 44 and plan on taking SD (maybe) if I meet the following conditions.

Bodyfat 12% or less
Bench 300+ pounds
Squat 400+ pounds
Deadlift 225+ pounds

A blood test before and after. A+ bill of health from the doctor.

The cycle for SD will be as follows:
3500-4000+ calories clean food a day.
8-9 hours of sleep a day
SD
10,20,20-Your Dad is even lighter then I am, two weeks is a waste, 20,20,20
is probably to much for him.
Suppliment stack taken 8 weeks=1 week preload,3 week SD cycle,4 week PCT
Milk thistle – Liver Protecting – 700mg split dose a Day
Red Rice yeast – Cholesterol – 2400mg split dose a Day
CoQ10 – Red Rice Yeast contains Lovastatin, which depletes the heart of CoQ10 – 30mg a Day
Flaxseed oil – Cholesterol, blood Pressure, skin – 1000mg a Day
Fish Oil – Heart – 1000mg
Mutli vitamin – with prostate protection- 1 a Day
Odourless Garlic – Blood Pressure – 1000mg a Day
Taurine – Lower Back Cramps – 1000mg a Day if cramps occur.
PCT
wk1: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 3 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk2: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 4 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk3: 20mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 5 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg
wk4: 10mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 6 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg

Blood test and check up after to see what I screwed up.

[pushpull]

I'm getting really sick of this kenseth17cd guy j/k

but seriously its true

[kenseth17cd]

Okay, my father is probably one of the strongest guys pound for pound in this country. That is just bottom line. I know that he is at the level where if anyone should take it, he should. I don't know too many people that are as strong and as dedicated in lifting as him. So, don't say he is not ready for it, because if he is not, then no one is. As far as you punks saying it is for me, why in the world would I ask for a 47 year old man. I am 21 and done with sd. But, my father wanted something to push him over the 400 mark in the bench and I think sd would do it.

[krenalor]

Originally Posted by kenseth17cd

Okay, my father is probably one of the strongest guys pound for pound in this country. That is just bottom line. I know that he is at the level where if anyone should take it, he should. I don't know too many people that are as strong and as dedicated in lifting as him. So, don't say he is not ready for it, because if he is not, then no one is. As far as you punks saying it is for me, why in the world would I ask for a 47 year old man. I am 21 and done with sd. But, my father wanted something to push him over the 400 mark in the bench and I think sd would do it.

It's up to him, use my dosage and PCT though. I got it from various sources and it covers all the bases well. He will meet his goal and have a good SD cycle and PCT with it.

[kenseth17cd]

I really don't understand why these guys always jump to conclusions. I am not going to touch that stuff again. If I do, it will be years down the road after I have kids. Anyways, my father is probably 16-18% bf. He definetely benches over 300 and squats over 400. But as for his health, no known problems at all. But of course he hardly ever goes to the doctor. My only concern/question is what if he just takes 6-oxo as a pct and does not get nolva. The reason I ask is that there is no way that he will do anything illegal and for him to get nolva, he is breaking the law, even if he orders it from a chemical lab, it is a prescribed drug and he doesnt have the prescription. So, he has no concern to have anymore kids, he got fixed years ago after they had me hahaha. So, the shrinkage probably wouldn't be too much of a concern for him.

[krenalor]

I wouldn't bother then, flush it. It is just to dangerous to try without Nolva. He may do the cycle and need a $6000.00-$15,000.00 operation to remove the gyno. At our age I don't trust my body to restart test production with a bad PCT. It screws up more then maybe missing some sex, your hormones are out of balance. What 25 year olds and we do, and how you heal at 40+ are night and day.

[bencozzy]

SD will mess with the blood lipids and liver something wicked even if its a short cycle, its so harsh on the liver it disrupts digestion.

so if your going to take it you should throw in some k-r-ala digestive enzymes and sesamin and then that might not even be strong enough to control the sides.

and pct is to get your own hormone production back up and running, which if you dont it can lead to horribly diorders and such ever hear storys from 40yr olds that did a cycle in high school then get osteoporosis thats from not having a pct.

[krenalor]

Originally Posted by bencozzy

SD will mess with the blood lipids and liver something wicked even if its a short cycle, its so harsh on the liver it disrupts digestion.

so if your going to take it you should throw in some k-r-ala digestive enzymes and sesamin and then that might not even be strong enough to control the sides.

and pct is to get your own hormone production back up and running, which if you dont it can lead to horribly diorders and such ever hear storys from 40yr olds that did a cycle in high school then get osteoporosis thats from not having a pct.

I worked with a 30 year old that the Doctor said had the joints of an eighty (yes 80) year old from doing steroids as a teenager. His joints were crumbling and frayed around the edges.
SD is not a beginner drug, in fact it is rather dangerous. The fact it's legal at this time means nothing for its hazards.

[kenseth17cd]

He decided not to do it on his own. I didn't even tell him all of this stuff yet. I have a question though. I have a bottle of 6-oxo. How much will it help me to take it and how much would it help him to take it.

[bencozzy]

i hate to bring this up because of it sensitivity but im all for another ban because alot of this compounds coming out are very dangerous and dont have to much research on them also since there legal it makes it easier for teens/ignorant people to get their hands on them, which makes it even more dangerous.