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Old 03-20-2006, 09:57 AM
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Wow this turned into one very imformative thread. I like it.
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whats better....the benadryl or ketofen?
ketotifen is superior, but because of the low cost and availability of benadryl, it really does do the trick! I always use benadryl now purely for economic reasons.

As for M4OHN dosing, I always like to run it ramped up for at least 6-8 weeks, which would be something like:
12, 16, 24, 32, 36, 36, or
16, 16, 24, 24, 32, 32, or I've even done
8, 8, 16, 16, 32, 32, 40, 40.
My personal experience is that for the first 2-3 weeks (before it really kicks in completely) you just need to introduce it into your system. You won't "lose" anything by low dosing for the first weeks. Then you'll save M4OHN (I'm assuming none of us has a lifetime supply left ) and you'll crank it up at the end to whatever degree you see fit. I found that finishing at 36mg/day was a pretty nice deal, but you certainly could go higher (especially if you're a big guy!)
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I dont see any need to ramp up (i did only because i started too low) as for it being non-supressive, thats definitely not true. it shuts me down.
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Are you really going to run a methylated oral for 8-10 weeks? Isn't that going to be murder on your liver? I think that is pusing it bro!
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it is a bit long - but m4ohn is milder. 10 weeks is too long... but 8 weeks should be ok with proper precautions.
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I would get every available hepatoprotectant then...all of them...
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benadryl/ketofen is only necessary if running clen more than 2 weeks correct?
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^^ yes tom...its keep your receptors clear...more or less.

as for running M4OHN...8 weeks is maximum and i was leaning more towards 6-7. i will probably dose close to 100mg ED, but as always, i will be listening to my body and how it reacts. liver protection is paramount for me.

rradam: what kind of shutdown did you experience? complete?
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Shrinkage mainly - maybe a little loss of libido, but not too bad.
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so 8 weeks of clen @ 40mcg will be good for me as long as i run benadryl weeks 3 and 6
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