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03-15-2006, 12:30 PM
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first cycle of t3 and clen
I am starting my cutting cycle this week and was wondering what types of workout program i should use? i will run clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and run a eca on my off weeks. any help will be great. Thanks
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03-15-2006, 12:42 PM
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let me get this straight?
Your running t3, clen and eca? How much muscle you looking to loose?
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03-15-2006, 01:17 PM
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Please tell us you forgot to mention you're using some form of test. T3 will eat you alive without test bro. As for training, just make sure you're hitting the cardio frequently, and keep your diet clean. You'll be pleased with the results.
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03-15-2006, 02:59 PM
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i was tld i should do this to drop down
i was told i should do this the do a bulking cycle. first drp body fat %then worry about mucles gain. is this wrong and if so what should i run with it to make sure i am happy with the results
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03-15-2006, 03:28 PM
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Lower dosages of T3 should not be a problem bro.
Test is a best way to run with high dosages of T3. But I would just get rid of some extra BF% and than go on cycle. But be sure to eat enough proteins, and healty fat,..do enough cardio and weight training workouts. You can get some Taurine caps to prevent get muscles cramps from Clen.
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03-15-2006, 04:16 PM
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IMO 25mcg of T3 is anabolic, it increases your metabolism to the point where your body utilizes carbs and proteins very efficiently and glycogen is easily stored int he muscle. if you are bulking up and take 25mcg of t3 and eat plenty of carbs it makes you look fuking humongous, even mroe so then slin. but if your dieting any more than 25mcg will make you go flat and lose muscle.
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03-15-2006, 04:56 PM
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ill be running 750mg of enanthate a week for 10 weeks...i eat 500-600 carbs...so u think t3 is a good idea? i like the sounds of it...i considered clen but then ruled it out bc i was afraid of losing too much muscle
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03-15-2006, 06:03 PM
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Tom, if you're afraid of muscle loss, go with the clen over T3. T3 is way more catabolic. I also feel clen gives me a nice energy boost, though this may be more psychological than physiological lol.
On a personal note, I'm currently running prop@100mg eod and eq@400mg along with clen and T3. I'm at my peak dosage of 150mcg T3, and about 80-100mcg of clen daily. Running this with ketotifen fumarate to prevent down regulation of clen receptors and to ward off side effects, I have not noticed ANY loss of strength or size (other than my gut). In fact, I just got back from a personal best deadlift tonight! I'm only eating about 2500 cals or less too. So I wouldn't worry too much about muscle loss.
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03-15-2006, 06:12 PM
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T3 is dangerous if used incorrectly. You can f*ck up your thyroid permanatley. If you must use something, start with clen, clean diet, and lots of cardio. Without test though, you risk losing that hard earned muscle.
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03-15-2006, 06:45 PM
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well to be exact this is my cycle that will happen in 2-3 weeks...
1-3 25mg dbol 1-10 750mg enanthate 7-12 200mg mega-zol (winstrol without methyl attachment) 7-12 4mg mega-trn (genericlabz.com) 1-12 .25mg letro 13 60mL tamox 14-16 30mL tamox I wanted to add clen but wasn't sure where to add it in there and how much...
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Ht: 5'11" Ecto Cycle #4: Started 5/27 SD @ 30 Test E @ 750 Mega-Trn @ 6 Mega-Zol @ 200 Clen Pyramiding from 185 to 205
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03-16-2006, 06:53 PM
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03-17-2006, 10:57 PM
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