helping test to work better...

[t_dot_porkchop]

i was thinking about this the other day....we supp with high levels of test on cycle. in order for test to do it work, it needs help from MANY other compounds/minerals/vitamins/etc. what substances help test to work and should we supp with higher doses of these account for the crazy test levels???

we might be wasting a lot test due to the fact that it simply cannot be utilized by the body because of inadequete internal supplies.

ideas? feedback?

[Poobah]

I'd say for the most part... we satisfy our needs, with the sheer volume of food we eat on a typical cycle... I also take 3 multi-vitamins per day just to make sure... Other then the obvious, probably vitamin E is big plus.

most of us already know the importance of high doses of vitamin C.. I'm just wondering now though, if it's role as a powerful anti-oxident would have any effect in terms of clearing receptors? Don't know...

As for making the most of Test... if you want to take something that would have a direct impact, then you'd be best served an SHBG binder... Activate, proviron, masteron, m5, etc....

not sure that what you looking for...

[t_dot_porkchop]

Originally Posted by Poobah

not sure that what you looking for...

here is an example: lets say vitamin D helps test to increase protein sythesis at a cellular level (just an example...NOT fact). if we are taking in a lot of test, but keep our level of vitamin D the same, then we are limiting what the test can do.

the mentality what i am trying to convey is "the system is only as strong as its weakest link" if vitamin D runs out before test does, then test is not being maximized.

i know about SHGB binders, but that does not address the "weakest link"

[RRAdam]

I dont think the stronger than the weakest link applies best here - seems too absolute. Of course, if you have a weak link in the chain - it would be a bit of a hinderance, but most factors are weighted. example, if you have perfect diet and exercise program, along with a cycle, you will still make huge gains. something smaller may cause a hinderance, but if one of the major factors is off, say diet, you are in for serious problems. So I guess what I am saying is all factors are not equal. SHBG is a big part as well - as anyone who has done test alone vs test and dht/m5aa/mdht/proviron/masteron/winny will tell you.

[t_dot_porkchop]

^ good point....my next cycle will be test prop stacked with dht-derivative.