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Old 01-31-2006, 05:22 AM
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Well folks, my first ever “cycle” is now complete.

My results & comments are as follows:

I did a 3 weeker at 10/20/20. Next time I will do a 20/20/20.

My height is 5’-7”

Starting weight: 160lbs
Ending weight (before pct) 178lbs

Negative comments:

1) Back pumps are a *****. I dealt with them, but have been told that taurine helps ease the pain

2) headaches got the best of me especially early on. I increased my water intake as much as I possibly could and that seemed to help.

3) aching joints were hard to deal with as well. I suggest having some good joint supplements lined up for this type of cycle. Rotator cuffs and knees were the worse.

4) shut-down. I for sure noticed some shut down during this cycle. I say that because the boys got smaller as the cycle went on. I would say they went down about close to half than my normal size. I’m told and confident they will come back during my pct.

5) irritability. I was for sure more aggressive at times. Around coworkers, my wife etc. This was not bad, however I did notice this.

Positive comments:

1) libido. I did not have any loss of libido at all. As a matter of fact, I noticed a little more stamina than normal

2) acne. I had maybe 3 or 4 nice zits on my back area. Nothing bad at all and they came at separate times. They were the ones to be proud of with the nice head you can squeeze and get some neat stuff out of. Not bad breakouts at all!

3) Pumps and muscle hardness. Need I say more? This stuff was awesome. I was so much more harder than normal and it didn’t take anything to get a pump going on. This was one of my favorite things the MD gave me!

4) Definition. The definition this stuff brought to my shoulders, arms and legs was unbelievable. I actually see a difference in my calves 

5) Appetite. I noticed an increase in hunger while on my cycle. Perhaps this is where you make up a lot of your weight gains while cycling this stuff. I learned to have chicken boobs, potatoes, oatmeal, whey and protein bars around at all times. This I feel has me focused more so on my diet than what I used to be like.

6) Weight gain. Of course I was wanting to gain some weight while on this, but when my little ass climbed on those scales and was inching closer to 180lbs, that was cool! I know 180lbs don’t seem like much to people, but for me it is awesome!

7) So far down the list, but how could I forget the strength? My strength and stamina went through the roof. I could stay in the gym for hours if I wanted to. My previous best on bench press was 290 x 5. At the end of my MD cycle, I did 335 x 5. This in itself was a goal that I always wanted to do (just for bragging rights with the guys). When I got 315 up so easy, I could not believe it. Then came 335 and I was like holy **** this is cool!

8) Focus. The focus in the gym was unreal. All I wanted to do is get down to business and that was it. Normally I’m like that anyway, but this was different somehow. This is also when I noticed some irritability. People would want to talk to me and it kinda pissed me off a couple times.


This is it at this time. Hopefully I will be able to report back with the final final results after my pct. If I could maintain 168-170lbs after everything is said and done, I would be very happy with the results. Next time before I do a cycle though, I will have all my blood work done prior to doing it. I wish I would of done that this time, but didn’t. One other thing to note, is my bp did go up from what it normally was. It did not get dangerously high or get me concerned. I just wish I knew what it did to my cholesterol while on cycle. I hope this helps people in some way. Everyone is different and responds differently, but this was my personal experience. Good luck to everyone with their bodybuilding goals!
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Old 01-31-2006, 08:13 AM
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Had more trouble with Libido durring PCT personnaly.
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:46 PM
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Well folks, my first ever “cycle” is now complete.


This is it at this time. Hopefully I will be able to report back with the final final results after my pct. If I could maintain 168-170lbs after everything is said and done, I would be very happy with the results. Next time before I do a cycle though, I will have all my blood work done prior to doing it. I wish I would of done that this time, but didn’t. One other thing to note, is my bp did go up from what it normally was. It did not get dangerously high or get me concerned. I just wish I knew what it did to my cholesterol while on cycle. I hope this helps people in some way. Everyone is different and responds differently, but this was my personal experience. Good luck to everyone with their bodybuilding goals!
Congrats Jamiem ! Aside from your BP, do you have any other vitals to report like liver, thyroid, kidney, etc.. Did you have a bloodwork done right after your cycle?
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no sir, I did not have any bloodwork prior to or right after my cycle. My plan is to get this done after my pct. I know that sounds crazy and backwards, but that is the way I went about it this time. I will always do my bloodwork prior to and after each cycle from now on. I really hope I didn't mess up big time by doing major damage to my body by going about it this way. Time will tell I guess
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A quick update on my pct. I am 3 weeks into pct w/ Formadrol Extreme ONLY. My weight is down to 174lbs. Strength is still better than before my cycle and libido is still fine has it was throughout the entire cycle. One more week of FE and my cycle will be complete. As long as the delayed gyno does not set in after my pct, I will be VERY happy with the results.
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Still should have had Nolva around during your cycle...and definitely had it for PCT....I wish you the best, but that wasn't the smartest thing you could have done...
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I have Tamoxifin Citrate.


I wanted to see for myself if it is really needed. So far with the Formadrol Extreme, it is not needed in my case. People can think and say what they want, but so far so good for me with this product as a stand alone. Now if I have issues in the future, then I will be wishing I would of listened to everyone else. Until I have issues, I can't say that Nolva or Tam. Citrate is necessary to keep gains and have a decent pct.

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A quick update on my pct. I am 3 weeks into pct w/ Formadrol Extreme ONLY. My weight is down to 174lbs. Strength is still better than before my cycle and libido is still fine has it was throughout the entire cycle. One more week of FE and my cycle will be complete. As long as the delayed gyno does not set in after my pct, I will be VERY happy with the results.
Do you still plan to have bloodwork done after your PCT? If so, can you post results?
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I have Tamoxifin Citrate.


I wanted to see for myself if it is really needed. So far with the Formadrol Extreme, it is not needed in my case. People can think and say what they want, but so far so good for me with this product as a stand alone. Now if I have issues in the future, then I will be wishing I would of listened to everyone else. Until I have issues, I can't say that Nolva or Tam. Citrate is necessary to keep gains and have a decent pct.

Just my thoughts
It seems that nolva and clomid is needed when 30mg is mixed with 4Ad.
OR 30/40 mg M1T is mixed with 4AD. Since you used only 20mg, you might be right about not using nolva and clomid.
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Do you still plan to have bloodwork done after your PCT? If so, can you post results?

yes, I plan to and I will share the results. How long after pct does it take your cholesterol to get back to normal?

I appreciate EVERYONES opinion & suggestions. Thanks again
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yes, I plan to and I will share the results. How long after pct does it take your cholesterol to get back to normal?

I appreciate EVERYONES opinion & suggestions. Thanks again
My cholesterol numbers during my SD cycle increased but still within normal range. However, my liver reading sky-rocketed and was back to normal after PCT(I did 4 weeks of PCT). My BP was higher too right after my cycle but I think that was to be expected.
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My cholesterol numbers during my SD cycle increased but still within normal range. However, my liver reading sky-rocketed and was back to normal after PCT(I did 4 weeks of PCT). My BP was higher too right after my cycle but I think that was to be expected.

great, thank you.
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well tomorrow is my last day of my pct. I also have scheduled an appointment for tomorrow morning to get my bloodwork done. I am a nervous wreck because I hate needles & going to the doctor in general. Anyway, I will report back with my blood results when I get them.

Something that I have noticed over the last few days here during my pct is I have been abnormally tired. I usually do not have troubles feeling awake, but it has been a struggle a couple times during the past few days. Other than that, everything else seems to be going pretty good.
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here we are, the results.............

The doc said everything was fine except for my liver enzymes are "mildly elevated"


comments welcome

edit: I do have a couple questions. Is there a chance my creatinine levels are high because of not really cycling creatine?

Do ya'll think my liver readings will go back to normal in a few more weeks?
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More than likely everything will go back to normal in a while...

The lab results are pretty consistent with SD changes. Elevated LDL and decreased HDL, elevated liver enzymes...textbook really....

The Creatine is probably causing the excess Creatinine....
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I cycle my creatine, you probably are one of the people that should.
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More than likely everything will go back to normal in a while...

The lab results are pretty consistent with SD changes. Elevated LDL and decreased HDL, elevated liver enzymes...textbook really....

The Creatine is probably causing the excess Creatinine....
I pretty much thought that myself, but wasn't sure.

Do you think I should cycle the creatine or is elevated creatinine levels even worth worrying about?

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Creatine should be cycled on and off periodically, but no the slight elevation in Creatinine shouldn't be a problem as long as you are keeping your water intake high...in the 1.5 gallon range per day...
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here we are, the results.............

The doc said everything was fine except for my liver enzymes are "mildly elevated"


comments welcome

edit: I do have a couple questions. Is there a chance my creatinine levels are high because of not really cycling creatine?

Do ya'll think my liver readings will go back to normal in a few more weeks?
Hey, I got your PM too and was busy for a while so was not able to respond. I believe that your liver readings will be back to normal in no time. Actually, your numbers are not that bad at all. The general "guideline" that my doctor gave me was that you take the maximum range and multiple it by three - that should give you the borderline figure(in which you should think of having a liver transplant or something if you are close to that nmber !!)

To aid to your liver being back to normal, just remember two things:

No TYLENOL period.
No alcohol period.

You may want to request from your doctor another round of bloodwork in a month's or two time. I am sure she will support you since this is part of your health monitoring now.

BTW, how's your testosterone level? I had mine checked last 3 weeks ago and the the normal range is from 200+ something to 870+ something(i need to go check my paperwork). My testosterone was like 315 or something... I thought that was too low so I am reading and doing research on natural testosterone boosters(like tribulus) and rethinking of another cycle(SD again maybe?)...more to come !
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4) shut-down. I for sure noticed some shut down during this cycle. I say that because the boys got smaller as the cycle went on. I would say they went down about close to half than my normal size. I’m told and confident they will come back during my pct.

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did they went back to normal ???????????????????
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