ProMagnon 25

[joe526]

Is ProMagnon 25 a steroid?? If not what is it? Is it safe?

[t_dot_porkchop]

never heard of it.....sounds corny though.

[TRAZ]

Yes it is a steroid it causes huge gains in the forehead and increases your ability to use clubs and hunt and gather food....

[ryanbodybuilder]

yes it IS a steroid..its DMT the same steroid that barry bonds and company used that was undectable up until 2003...its legal because of the loophole for now anyway.....and NO its not safe if you dont know what you are doing dude...

[mywetnightmares]

Are you sure it's dmt, PheraPlex is dmt so I'd assume that if it were the same the dose per cap would be smaller.

[Sean]

From another reputable site:
the designer of which (BK) describes it as a precurser to methyltest

Thoughts of folks thought it was Halodrol just half the dosage and sold under a different name but made by Gaspari, but that seems to be false. This stuff is made by some company that is a small tanning saloon in FL.
There is a log of someone running it on AM. So far, slight strength increase but the user is reporting alot higher endurance and vascularity after 2 weeks.

[ryanbodybuilder]

hmmmm i am 90% confident it has DMT in it..I dont have time to find the study on it...and no PheraPlex and Ergomax LMG are NOT DMT

[mywetnightmares]

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=17984

They are DMT.

[ryanbodybuilder]

ok well promagnon is: 4-chloro-methyltest

i thought that was DMT..my mistake...or rrradam could answer

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by ryanbodybuilder

ok well promagnon is: 4-chloro-methyltest

i thought that was DMT..my mistake...or rrradam could answer

4-chloro methyltest is turinabol

i thought it was just halodrol @ a lower dosage, I never really looked into it past that. are the ingredients listed on the bottle?

[Sean]

Here is the info:
Advanced Body Composition Altering Substrate
STRONGER THAN HALODROL!

Bio-Engineered Lean Mass, Strength, and Hardening Agent

ProMagnon-25™ is a highly effective lean mass and strength enhancing catalyst, scientifically engineered to support rapid gains in muscle strength, size, and power. Because ProMagnon-25™ cannot aromatize to estrogen, water retention (and the soft, puffy, bloated look that goes with it) is minimized. In addition to exceptional mass and strength gains, users may also notice marked increases in energy levels, endurance, libido, and lipolysis (fat loss). As with most dietary supplements, ProMagnon-25™ is intended to compliment a proper die qt and training program.

IMPORTANT: Professional and amateur athletes subject to performance enhancing substance testing should consult with their sanctioning body before using this product as use of such may cause a reactive drug test.

Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3, 17b-diol 25mg
Peak Performance Support Blend 505mg
(L-tyrosine, tonkat ali extract, ATP disodium, alpha lipoic acid)

Other Ingredients: dicalcium phosphate, sorbitol, croscarmelose sodium, magnesium stearate, stearic acid.

Warnings: Consult with your physician before using this product, particularly if you are taking any prescription medications. Do not take this product if you have prostate hypertrophy, liver disease, blood pressure, high cholesterol, cardiovascular disease or are being treated for any psychiatric conditions. Not for use by women.

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by Sean

Here is the info:
Advanced Body Composition Altering Substrate
STRONGER THAN HALODROL!

Bio-Engineered Lean Mass, Strength, and Hardening Agent

ProMagnon-25™ is a highly effective lean mass and strength enhancing catalyst, scientifically engineered to support rapid gains in muscle strength, size, and power. Because ProMagnon-25™ cannot aromatize to estrogen, water retention (and the soft, puffy, bloated look that goes with it) is minimized. In addition to exceptional mass and strength gains, users may also notice marked increases in energy levels, endurance, libido, and lipolysis (fat loss). As with most dietary supplements, ProMagnon-25™ is intended to compliment a proper die qt and training program.

IMPORTANT: Professional and amateur athletes subject to performance enhancing substance testing should consult with their sanctioning body before using this product as use of such may cause a reactive drug test.

Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving
4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3, 17b-diol 25mg
Peak Performance Support Blend 505mg
(L-tyrosine, tonkat ali extract, ATP disodium, alpha lipoic acid)

Other Ingredients: dicalcium phosphate, sorbitol, croscarmelose sodium, magnesium stearate, stearic acid.

Warnings: Consult with your physician before using this product, particularly if you are taking any prescription medications. Do not take this product if you have prostate hypertrophy, liver disease, blood pressure, high cholesterol, cardiovascular disease or are being treated for any psychiatric conditions. Not for use by women.

looks like halodrol to me.

[ThickNick]

what would ProMagnon 25 be compared to? (besides halodrol)

[Sean]

Got this off of AM. I have no personal knowledge of this stuff, just what I have read that I am conveying here. The log there is in it's 3rd week and just mentions increased endurance while lifting and a slight strenght gain. For all this jacking with the liver, I would rather due tried and true SD.

Here is the read:
Apparently it is NOT the exact same thing. Bruce Kneller and Bill Llewellyn both have said it is not the same chemically (you can decide whether you can take their word for it). You can compare the two actives yourself.

ProMagnon-25: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3,17b-diol


Halodrol-50: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3,17b-diol

Bill on **.com: If that chemical name is correct, it is not the same thing as Halodrol. This lacks a 1-ene. It is a precursor to 4-chloromethyltestosterone (a methylated derrivative of Clostebol/Megagrisevit Mono) instead.

Bruce on **.com: The PPL product is the 4-halogenated precursor to 4-chloro-methyltestosterone while the GN product is the 4-halogenated precursor to Oral Turinabol.

[RRAdam]

I was under the impression that turinabol was 4-chloromethyltestosterone

[RRAdam]

then again, i might be wrong.

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by RRAdam

then again, i might be wrong.

and i am. One is a precursor to methylated clostebol, the other a precursor to turinabol.

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by RRAdam

then again, i might be wrong.

and i am. One is a precursor to methylated clostebol (promag), the other a precursor to turinabol (halodrol).

[Sean]

Found this on Clostebol:
Clostebol is a synthetic androgenic steroid with anabolic effects that is frequently used in sports to increase physical performance.

So that explains why he has seen increase in endurcne but not really in strength.