I Need Help With Cycle! Im New!

[AandF_Model]

Im on my third day of my cycle(below) and i know if u do a 6wk cycle ur supposed to take 6 weeks "off" once ur done with ur pct. My question is... What else can u take during those 6 weeks to maximize my gains and make sure i dont lose what i gained from the cycle?

My Current Cycle
Week 1-3 - 30mg AX Superdrol
Week 4-6 - A PCT of TDrive and 6OXO & DHT Blockers Tapering the dosage
Week 1-6 - NOW Liver Detox & Regen

Im also using on a daily basis:
Sci-Fit Kre-Alkalyn
Universal Nuritions Animal Paks
ZMA
Whey Protein
Soy Protein Before Bed

btw - i log all my numbers as far as weights and food. I eat a 20/40/40 ratio diet, do cardio 2-3 days a week and intense weights 6 days a week. Ive use andro's and other PH's but this is first time with superdrol.

On a further note: im impressed with my results today. I did triceps and my numbers all increased dramatically but specifically on close grip presses they increased by 20lbs!!! I was blown away!

Thanks
Steve

[mywetnightmares]

PCT should last 4 weeks rather than three. You don't need any dht blockers unless you're prone to androgenic sides. You really should be using nolva for PCT. Save the creatine for after your cycle. If this is your first time using SD you should have started at 10 mg to assess your tolerance. Many people can get by on 10-20 mg.

What's your age?

This should be in the steroids forum by the way.

[AandF_Model]

3 quick questions: Why a 4 wk pct? and why nolva? According to the website(at the bottom) and many others, Nolva isnt necessary and Tdrive contains the same chem as rebound xt. Plus almost every threard and websiste on a sup cycle people use a 3wk pct. (not just on this forum). Why should i take creatine after my cycle?

I am prone to androgen sides. (acne and im afraid of kick starting my balding. i will use dht blockers the rest of my life)

Since i have used other supplements like andro poppers, original animal stak, ect.. ect.. ive always noticed that i needed to take higher dosages for the same effect that others have gotten. (trial and error i guess)

So what should i use for the 6wks of im off, just creatine?

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-superdrol.asp

[vassille]

Originally Posted by AandF_Model

3 quick questions: Why a 4 wk pct? and why nolva? According to the website(at the bottom) and many others, Nolva isnt necessary and Tdrive contains the same chem as rebound xt. Plus almost every threard and websiste on a sup cycle people use a 3wk pct. (not just on this forum). Why should i take creatine after my cycle?

I am prone to androgen sides. (acne and im afraid of kick starting my balding. i will use dht blockers the rest of my life)

Since i have used other supplements like andro poppers, original animal stak, ect.. ect.. ive always noticed that i needed to take higher dosages for the same effect that others have gotten. (trial and error i guess)

So what should i use for the 6wks of im off, just creatine?

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-superdrol.asp

Creatine will maximize your gains and makes getting off SD easier without losing a lot of strenght. YOu also have to take Rebound xt for the same amount you are on SD or 6 Weeks(I think that's what you said your cycle is). Somehting tells me that you do not really know what you are doing in which case I would advise you to read more stickies. If you are taking PH back to back to back cycles(even with PCT) you will become immune to them and you will need higher dosage to get the same results. You should only do a few cycles a year at the most. You do not want your body to get used to this stuff, man. In order to keep your muscle you need to eat a lot even after the cycle even though you might get fat.
Read brother, I think you need it!

[virus]

5-6 weeks between cycles is good amount of time for off-time.....

i believe the guy has did his homework, the cycle looks good cept for the pct as already stated... nolva is ALWAYS the best source for PCT, or clomid, they are peoven products.. these new products on the market arent being used enough to declare them as somethigns that been in use forever n known to work (nolva).. creatine would be great for your after cycle

what are u using for a DHT blocker?

[AandF_Model]

Thanks guys, i appreciate your advice and concern, but i think vassile isinterpreted what i was trying to say. Im doing 3 weeks on Superdrol. Then im doing a 3wk Pct of T-drive & 6 oxo. After the 6 weeks, im taking 6 weeks off of everything. (so its a total of a 12 week cycle)

According to this thread (below), T-drive contains the same formula as Rebound Xt by AX, and the user sean on this forum said that he used t-drive and its an effective estrogen blocker. But i do understand that i was going to use true (injection or tabs like dbol) steroids i would use nolva. I just did soem reading on this and saw that superdrol has little to no estrogen conversion. So i figured just in order to restore natural test levels that i would those because i know 6oxo works (used it b4).

And for a DHT blocker im going the all natural way of using: Saw Palmetto and Pygeum

http://bodybuildingforyou.com/forums...hlight=T-Drive


i thought creatine should be taken all year round? Thats what ive been doing for the past 5 years now. I do 3 months on, and i take 2 weeks off. and since im already taking creatine and eating a balanced diet, is there anything else besides creatine that will help?

[fadi]

Someone posted under the PH section that he has done an SD cycle and PCed with Rebound XT. He later on found out that his Rebound XT was one of the bad batches and ended up with GYNO. This may not happen to you, but it is something you would need to consider.

[AandF_Model]

Originally Posted by fadi

Someone posted under the PH section that he has done an SD cycle and PCed with Rebound XT. He later on found out that his Rebound XT was one of the bad batches and ended up with GYNO. This may not happen to you, but it is something you would need to consider.

Thanks. I never really thought about bad batches. I kind of figured that a company would want to monitor what they distribute. i know if i owned a company and wanted to make a name for myself, i would make sure that i products i ship out are all tried and tested. thats like DuPont selling a bad batch of paint and expecting no one to care (thats a bad example, DuPont has so much money that they probably wouldnt care about a few bad batches)

[fadi]

We all thought they test all their batches, but I guess once you deal with the same supplier over and over you may skip some tests. Of course the same could happen with research chemicals so there is no guarantee that the nolva you will get is legit or dosed correctly.

I just liked to have Nolva on hand just in case. You never know, the extra cost may save you headache. I think of it as insurance.

[AandF_Model]

Thanks Guys.

But im still wondering. Besides creatine, is there anything else that i can take during those 6 weeks off

[gymNut]

Keep us posted on how the SD affects you, good and bad. 30mg is a surprising dose to start off with. It's a lot stronger than those andro poppers. Hope it works well for you.

[Massive D]

Wrong Forum. IMO.. SD has no place in the bodybuilding world. It has far to many sides vs regular orals.

MD

[AandF_Model]

Thanks and will do.

[vassille]

Originally Posted by AandF_Model

Thanks guys, i appreciate your advice and concern, but i think vassile isinterpreted what i was trying to say. Im doing 3 weeks on Superdrol. Then im doing a 3wk Pct of T-drive & 6 oxo. After the 6 weeks, im taking 6 weeks off of everything. (so its a total of a 12 week cycle)

According to this thread (below), T-drive contains the same formula as Rebound Xt by AX, and the user sean on this forum said that he used t-drive and its an effective estrogen blocker. But i do understand that i was going to use true (injection or tabs like dbol) steroids i would use nolva. I just did soem reading on this and saw that superdrol has little to no estrogen conversion. So i figured just in order to restore natural test levels that i would those because i know 6oxo works (used it b4).

And for a DHT blocker im going the all natural way of using: Saw Palmetto and Pygeum

http://bodybuildingforyou.com/forums...hlight=T-Drive


i thought creatine should be taken all year round? Thats what ive been doing for the past 5 years now. I do 3 months on, and i take 2 weeks off. and since im already taking creatine and eating a balanced diet, is there anything else besides creatine that will help?

My bad, I see you are taking an extra 6 weeks off on top of the 6 weeks on+PCT. I thought you were going back to back.

[vassille]

Originally Posted by AandF_Model

Thanks Guys.

But im still wondering. Besides creatine, is there anything else that i can take during those 6 weeks off

Nope that's it. The real secret is how well you can maintain what you have gained! It's up to you and your genetics.

[AandF_Model]

yeah that is true. a good buddy of mine just finished up his college baseball career a few months ago. in the offseason he trains hard as **** then takes the seasons off because he loses his flexibility but not a lot of size..anyways the point is.. he got back into lift and put 1 1/2 inches in on his arms in the first month. it has slowed down since but the kid is a sick ****. hes 5'11 218 with 8 or 9% BF but he has 18" arms. he went from 16 to 18 in 4 months and no sauce. pisses me off lol

[AandF_Model]

Btw Thanks All

[virus]

30mg of SD is alot

how much do u weigh?

[AandF_Model]

Here are my stats
6'2"
210
8% BF

[virus]

id suggest 20mg.. if u respond to SD, you should love that cycle...