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Old 01-11-2006, 11:09 AM
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i am not trying to be a nuisance, and im sorry if i am coming off that way. I am 19 years old going on 20 this Febuary. i have been working out since i was 17. i played football in highschool, baseball, and basketball. i have always been a thick guy. my weight is 185 and i am 6 ft. The reason i am looking into using steroids is because i have hit a wall. a wall that i cannot get over, i have not gained any muscle in over a month, my patients are wareing out. im not saying that it is too hard, or that im lazy and looking for the easy way out, i think i hit my physical peak.i am still playing baseball in college. i cannot play this year because there are no spots open. the roster is filled. i wll be starting my jr year. i think that it is the perfect time to using. i am looking for someone to help me. i have been reading the effects of steroids, and to me the positive effects out weigh the negative. its easy to say that because i have not gotten negative effects. i am looking for a user that has been using steroids and really understands what they are doing. it is up to you if you want to help me, im not begging. if you wish not to help me please dont post negative remarks to me please. i have a ton of questions, that could not be answered by searching. that dosnt mean that i am done researching. i feel very strongly about this, and hope that someone can help me/walk me through the process. i am not trying to be a world class bodybuilder. i just want to be strong, and have a good body. another reason i am interesten in taking steroids is because i want to raise my athletic ability to the max. Again i am not looking for the easy way out. nothing about working out is easy, because your always pushing your body to the max. well if you want to help me please post here.

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-Alright so i dont want to become insanely huge, i just want to be above average, can i control dosage so im not hurting myself, but building muscle
- what do you think wouyld be best for me
- i have been looking through and reading about all the different steroids, d-bol seems very popular can you tell me what you think of it
-Can you tell me of a small simple cycle to follow i need to see if ill be able to keep up with taking them, if i cant why waiste the money by buying many to fit a certain cycle. What was your first cycle what types of gains did you make
- what age were you, whenhen you started taking steroids.
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Old 01-11-2006, 11:31 AM
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This is something I found. I thought it was worth adding to your thread seeing how teens are so "ready" to juice. I've read many posts and try to advise against it, and was sometimes flamed for my opinions by teens. I am not bitter about the flames. I mean I am a big boy and **** like that really don't bother me. But, I still want to help the teens in making the right decisions. You have the whole life in front of you. Don't take the chance of screwing things up by starting too soon.

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“Last month I wrote an article titled "Steroids The Difference Between Use and Abuse". The emails came poring in, and there was something that really caught my attention as well as my concern. The concern that I am talking about was the overwhelming amount of emails that I received from kids, yes kids asking questions about steroid use and recommended cycles. I would estimate that about 65% of the emails I received were from individuals in the 12-19yr old range. This was, and obviously still is very alarming to me! As a result of this, I am dedicating an article solely to the dangers of adolescent steroid use. This article, is not intended to be used as a scare tactic, because I know that for one, that doesn't work, and secondly it only widens the gap between you and I. Instead this is a "For your information only" article.

I shall begin with the psychological dangers. The fact of the matter is that puberty effects more than just physical maturing, but also many personality characteristics that last your entire lives. Puberty is the period in which many influences, as well as practices will contain the most "sticking power". The problem is that steroids can lead to serious health problems, and that the sooner you start taking them the earlier the problems may occur. This is also the time where many insecurities and dependencies develop, and it can be very difficult to change these. Adolescence is not a good time to make any decision that can affect the rest of your life, like the decision to use drugs. The chemical make-up of a teen-age boy is extremely complex, and the complications steroids cause can be very detrimental.

In my opinion, the most detrimental thing that could happen is the stunting of growth plates. During adolescence the growth plates are not set, and foreign testosterone will very easily halt the entire process. What does this mean? This means that if you are 5'6" right now, then you will always be 5'6". Neither the NBA, nor the NFL will be knocking on your door anytime soon. The other complications involve extreme bone pain, as not all of your growth plates may set. Some may set, and others may not, it's a big gamble not worth taking. This is not to mention the liver toxicity, vascular damage, kidney damage, and joint problems.

There is no valid reason for adolescents to use steroids. For one, as I told one of you, you have more testosterone running through your veins than I do. Secondly, have patience, most of the mail I received was from kids who had only been working out for a very short while. Then there was the mail that especially upset me. This guy wanted to use steroids because there was some bully at school who kept abusing him. This one really bothered me, I know how cruel kids can be. My advice for anyone else in the same situation is to take the money you would scam out of your parents to spend on steroids, and take karate or some similar self-defense art. You should focus on doing something that's really going to endanger the health of the bully, and not your own.

Now lets look at some alternatives. There are tons of wonderful supplements, and workout routines available to provide you with an alternative means to your goal. You all have many more products available to you then I did when I was your age. I would recommend starting basic. First of all we all need multi-vitamins, protein powders, and other necessary supplements. Secondly, get a good routine going. I would also recommend getting a routine from someone other than your high school athletic coach. You can either email me, or visit a quality personal trainer in your area. I will be glad to assist you with this in any way that I can, and it is absolutely free!”

To close this whole thing out, once again have patience, work hard, and stay strong at 19 you have some room to grow. If you really want cycle advice from myself I must have a note from your mum! JK.
I hope you make wise decisions.

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instead of jumping right into the sauce.. why dont you try changing things up.. try doing sets of 3 or 4 reps instead of 10.. write down your numbers.. and eat clean.. your 19, your test levels are still peaking.. theirs no reason to sauce until your 25 or older.. plus try something more on the mild side like Anabolic Extremes Superdrol.. people put on up to 12 lbs on in a 3 week cycle.. Superdrol is compared to the steroid Anadrol and M1T.. do your research.. and give yourself a chance to grow.. patience is a virtue
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Superdrol is not on the mild side. I'd say wait till you're older, change your routine like previously said, maybe try something like what Vplayer uses.
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THE MOST ANABOLIC THING YOU CAN PUT INTO YOUR BODY AT THAT HORMONE RAGING AGE IS FOOD! STUFF YOUR FACE WITH PROTEIN AND CARBS BUT LOW FAT!

dude you are frickin way too young!
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i am 28 and just started gear last year...also 185 at 6" is very very skinny in my eyes! if you were 240 that would be thick! i got up to 190 at 5'8.5 naturally.....so why cant you get up to 220 naturally or so over the next 3 years, then consider steroids.....you need to learn alot more, READ READ READ.....we are not here to force feed the info to you! READ READ READ
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Slittle,

I hope you don't think we are being negative because we like to be dicks to people. Steroids are nothing like taking protein or creatine and while you think you uderstand the risks because you did a paper on them, do you honestly think you can deal with the risks?

For example:

What is your plan if you develop gyno? can you afford a surgery?
What if you have erectile disfunction? what will you do?
What if you no longer can have kids?
What if your liver damage becomes serious?
Are you independent enough to see a doctor for treatments?

It is one thing to say "I know the risks" and it is another thing to have a plan to deal with the risks. If you think they are risks and not real sides, you are mistaken my friend. With every cycle you will deal with the above issues and your homework and sometimes genetics and luck may keeps you safe. I don't like the term risk because people assume it might happen, they are sides not risks.

It is easy to tell you take this for 3 weeks follow it with that for another 4 but you don't strike us as someone who can deal with the sides.

The other issue is that newbies think if they take steroids then they will become huge like the guys in the magazines. If you think one or two cycles will make you big, you are way wrong. Unless you have perfect diet and proven workout routine, then steroids will give you some temporary gains that will go away once you cycle off.
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Slittle,

I hope you don't think we are being negative because we like to be dicks to people. Steroids are nothing like taking protein or creatine and while you think you uderstand the risks because you did a paper on them, do you honestly think you can deal with the risks?

For example:

What is your plan if you develop gyno? can you afford a surgery?
What if you have erectile disfunction? what will you do?
What if you no longer can have kids?
What if your liver damage becomes serious?
Are you independent enough to see a doctor for treatments?

It is one thing to say "I know the risks" and it is another thing to have a plan to deal with the risks. If you think they are risks and not real sides, you are mistaken my friend. With every cycle you will deal with the above issues and your homework and sometimes genetics and luck may keeps you safe. I don't like the term risk because people assume it might happen, they are sides not risks.

It is easy to tell you take this for 3 weeks follow it with that for another 4 but you don't strike us as someone who can deal with the sides.

The other issue is that newbies think if they take steroids then they will become huge like the guys in the magazines. If you think one or two cycles will make you big, you are way wrong. Unless you have perfect diet and proven workout routine, then steroids will give you some temporary gains that will go away once you cycle off.
do that sideeffects could happens even from one cycle of anabol? what is gyno?
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in before the lock!
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Why would they lock it? Just a dead post with some really newbish questions as far as I can see.
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cuz its stupid shut up
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do that sideeffects could happens even from one cycle of anabol? what is gyno?
Yes these sides can happen from a single cycle. Gyno is when you develop female like breasts. Known also as man tits.
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and also as ***** tits
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cuz its stupid shut up
Nice post, very intelligent and well thought out. Bravo.
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/\/\ ROFLMFAO!!!!

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Patience, Dedication, Perseverance all equals to becoming a good athlete not the roids. Perhaps you need to dip into the three supplements I mentioned?
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and also as ***** tits
now am afraid of roids
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now am afraid of roids
Wait, you don't care about infertility, erectile disfunction, liver damage, and cholesterol issues but gyno makes you afraid?
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This may sound stupid.. but lets not forget acne..

This is a side that strikes all roid users sooner or later.. and you might think.. big deal acne. But Have you ever developed a large patch of deep cystic ACne, that keeps growing and produces more oil then Kuwait.

Add to that Male pattern baldness.. and you too can be a bald headed 24 year old, with acne from head to toe.

here.. check out some acne..

www.acnesource.org/ facts_what-is-acne_photos.htm

I think the worst i had is Inflammatory acne on my chest at the end of my last cycle... with perhaps a few cystic ones... It was quite painful to the touch, but nothing like that dudes cheek though.. yuk.. (but it could happen to you).

Currently I'm dealing with moderate acne on my chest and shoulders and upper back.
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Wait, you don't care about infertility, erectile disfunction, liver damage, and cholesterol issues but gyno makes you afraid?
loool am afraid from all those sideeffects but many ppl say that anabol is a weak hormone so it cant cause this sideeffect unless you take a lot of them and do a lot of anabol cycles. is that right?
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