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Old 07-09-2004, 07:05 PM
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Alright, I'm running myself into the ground figuring out what the hell I'm going to do.

Here's the deal. I have become really serious about, getting healthy. I'm down 86 pounds from 410 pounds since February. I quit smoking, 5 months.. I quit Drinking for about a year.. And I quit a cocain habit that almost killed me for 2 years.

I kicked my ass out of sloth mode.. and Cardio my ass off every morning. I'm taking care of myself. And stick to 6 night a week weight lifting schedule.

So here I am now, at the door step of something new. Something that will help me to sculpt my body... Something I very much want to do.

I have been reading and studying up with my spare time, as much as possible.. and I realize this isn't a joke. In fact it is very serious. There is alot of questions still to be asked, and researched.

I'm still 326 pounds. I don't even want to consider a bulking cycle till I'm around 250 pounds... For numerous reason... like Um, It's far more healthier for me now to loose weight. Although my blood pressure is in the normal range, it will only get better as I slim down. It would be beneficial for me to develope a better muscle base before I start (which I should mention is coming along marvelously.. I think I might be genetically blessed :P). I have alot more to learn as well.

So here's my Dilemma. At any fricken moment, this can all become Illegal, and my window of oppertunity will dissappear forever (unless you want to get into full blown and over priced roids. ).

I can't freakin, make up my mind.

Should I buy 100 grams of 1-test, and 200 grams of 4-AD.. seeing as they are generally seen as safe alternatives to things such as M-1-T. Should I just get a bunch of bottles of 4Derm, and Big 1.. or bottles of +S1. How long will they remain at potency? Should I buy both and add powder to them to increase potency and stretch the dollar? Someone told me the bottles will stay at maximum potency for 1 year or more.. is that a fact.. will they stay for more then year?

Been doing alot of reading, and everywhere I turn, I'm blown away by M1T's results.. People are doing back flips... Even though the possiblity of liver damage is high, and great care should be taken in terms of liver sups etc.... Should I buy now?

Basically what I'm asking is...

If you had a 1000 US dollars to spend today, (and you were only going to spend it on this stuff). What would you buy...

Everytime I think I made up my mind, I think of something else. Like today for instance I started considering starting a Methyl-Dien cutting cycle right now.

Just looking for opinions from people with experience, before my window of oppertunity expires.

Thanks guys.
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Old 07-09-2004, 07:10 PM
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Personally I would buy the S1+. Of course, if it's going to be a while before you use it by 1-test and 4-ad powder vacuum sealed. I think it makes it have a longer shelf life(someone correct me here if i'm wrong). You can then buy the transport matrix whenever you decide to use it.
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I'd buy the powders vaccum seal it and sit on them for a year. Like Viper said you can buy the Transport matrix later because they will not be banned. Or you could even make your own transdermal gel whenever you're ready to start using PH's.
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Poobah - I'll be PM'ing you this weekend to give you details on what I think you should spend your money on. Just don't freak out. You have a few months leeway right now (see the ban sticky).
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Old 07-10-2004, 08:45 AM
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poobah, bad choice on thinking that a PH is the way to go.......you have alot of bodyfat to shed before you would ever want to go with a PH....PH's arent the best way to go if you want to shed bodyfat......just make sure your diet, workouts, and other supplements are in check.....
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Old 07-10-2004, 09:16 AM
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Thanks for the advice.. I agree with you... The Methyl-Dien now, idea was something that just turned in my head once or twice.. not really serious about that.

I want to get down to atleast 250 pounds before I consider anything.

I could go lower, but probably not as low as some of you might think... I have a massive chest and bone structure. I was a tight end on the senior football team when I was a youngin in grade nine. I had a 34 waist and wieghed 220 pounds.. and never have been knocked off my feet in my life. I'm extremely dense. Hell I use to look at guy across the line and think, jesus how am I going to get by that guy... then once the ball was snapped I ran right over them, like nothing.... Twice I have cracked people ribs playing baseball, once playing football. lol

First time, I was playing seecond base, and had the ball. The runner coming from first thought the only way to be safe was to try to hit me hard and make drop the ball. Well On impact, I never moved an inch. He on the other hand bounced off me, flew literally 10feet backward and landed flat on his back. He stayed there.

Oddly enough the second time, I was running around first and heading for second.. and my buddy ron (not a buddy at the time)... thought it be funny to just step in my path and knock me off my feet slowing me down on the way to second. Bad idea. I totally fractured 2 of his ribs.. and he was in bed for 6 weeks.

As for the third guy, he tried to tackle me.. lol bad mistake. Anyway the kewl thing is all these guys were big guys.

Actually I made a epic enemy way back then, the biggest meanest guy in the whole city, and famous bar brawler by the time he was 18 played the football team. I was put across the line from him in practice. I picked him up like a sack of Potatoes and Tossed like last weeks garbage . For the rest of my time in high school... I was a marked man. lol

I guess the moral of the story, is I'm a big guy for 6feet even.. and If I continue to lift & cardio 6 days a week till I hit 250 pounds... I'm damn curious as to what I'll look like then?

Any whoo.. I appreciate the advice. I just need to buy now and hold onto everything till I shed more weight. It's coming off surprisingly quick, but is definately slowing down. Current average is about 4.3 pounds a week... By the time I hit 150 pounds loss I expect that to crepe closer and closer to 2.5 or so. My original goal was planned for 1.7 pounds a week till May 23, 2006.. So far I'm blowing that out of the water.

Keep the advice coming.
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Old 07-10-2004, 10:55 AM
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yea not sure what you are taking for supplements now, but may I suggest ephedrine and a fat burner in cycles.....like:

wk1
lipo6 ef 2/day
wk2
lipo6 ef 2/day
wk3
lipo 6 ef 3/day
vasopro ephedrine hcl 1/day
wk4
san tight 3/day
vasopro ephedrine hcl 2/day
wk5
lipo6 ef 2/day
wk6
lipo6 ef 1/day
wk7
nothing
wk8
nothing
wk9
repeat above

I don't know what you think about that, or anyone else but you can always add things like alcar or just l-carnitine among other things.....

Yea you sould like you have a big frame, but that means you can be perfect at even about 240lbs.......if I were you right now I would only worry about bodyfat %, lifting weights 3 times per week is PLENTY, but also 4 days of cadio a week is PLENTY for you......always shock your body into fat burning......change it up, every workout change from heavy weights one week to lower weights the next.....different excersises everytime too......good luck homie!
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That was unecessary, please refrain from such comments in the future.

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Old 01-27-2006, 08:33 AM
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lol.. dig up the past much?
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Old 01-27-2006, 08:38 AM
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And, at least I'm somewhat ready to do what I'm doing.. unlike you, who is uneducated, and not very big at all.

Sept 19 2005 - 270 pounds - forgive the face paint, but I looked constipated and angry.


Sept 20 2005 - 270 pounds - I think I look big and hulkish.


Oct 16 2005 - 268ish pounds - I feel all godly and glow like.


Nov 16 2005 - 280ish - Yes i got fatter, but damn it I got calves.
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Undalbert84....you are a moron....everyone has had problems in the past (some of mine are very similar to Poob actually). What is important is that you are able to overcome them and grow as a person. Stronger now than before. Tempered by the roughness of life. Wiser and more experienced. I think I like Poobah more knowing the problems he had because I have been there too.
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i have too, im just shoving it in his face because he pissed me off... and i am getting bigger for your info im 179 now with little fat, and i am very educated i've read over 100 books on bodybuilding and over 50 on nutrition oh and i am acsm certified.. so screw yourself.
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Just waiting for the dumb prick to be banned...
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Personally I think you have access to all your needs and requirements for the future and your money could remain in the bank.

The results off PH are great yes. But sooner or later your going to reach a position where you have reached your genetic limit and these PH wont benefit you at all, and if they serve any purpose at this point, it will be to kickstart your 'real' cycle.

Buy yourself $1000 of steak. Thats an investment.



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Surfer, that post is a year and a half old. Just been dug up by Poobahs online stalker.
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i have too, im just shoving it in his face because he pissed me off... and i am getting bigger for your info im 179 now with little fat, and i am very educated i've read over 100 books on bodybuilding and over 50 on nutrition oh and i am acsm certified.. so screw yourself.
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Meh , **** happens in the past i usta be on coke, amongst other types of speed, theres no fukkin reason to throw that in somebodys face , addiction isnt a easy thing to kick bro, your just a self rightous asshole in my opionion , thats not some you throw in somebodys face no matter what the hell they said on a board anywhere
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Too funny.
Brought back an old ass thread.
Hell, I was confused when it was talking about s1+ and stuff.
I was gonna say, $1000 bucks!! Pin it all Duded but then I say the dates of the threads.
Und- stop doing the please.
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Surfer, that post is a year and a half old. Just been dug up by Poobahs online stalker.
Oops.

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Meh , **** happens in the past i usta be on coke, amongst other types of speed, theres no fukkin reason to throw that in somebodys face , addiction isnt a easy thing to kick bro, your just a self rightous asshole in my opionion , thats not some you throw in somebodys face no matter what the hell they said on a board anywhere
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