The differince

[33Eagle]

Whats the diff between methyl-d and Oxibol by pro matrix?
is it just the methalation, vs Undecanoate?

I used the Oxibol/4ad on my first cycle and liked it better than the S1 cycle I just finished. Gained about 10 lbs. with each. I didnt realy have any problums with the s1 one but I was not as pumped and could just sleep all day. On The Oxibol I was much more pumped and had alot of energy, Falling asleep was more of an issue. the S1 it also felt like it shut me down more.

[RRAdam]

well for starters, they are completely differenct compounds... methyldien is methyldien and oxabol is 4ohn undec. 2 completely different hormones with different effects.

[33Eagle]

anybody want to clarify what the differance is? I see they are nor 19 derivitives. is the methyle-d a steroid and oxibol a pro- hormoan?

I'm trying to decide whitch to take for the next cycle. any sugg?

Thanks

[RRAdam]

Yes, they are both 19-nor derivatives, oxabol gets its name from oxabolone, which is the steroid name for 4ohn - yes, 4ohn is a steroid, they are both steroids. oxabol is not methylated, so I'm not sure on it oral bioavailability, m4ohn is better orally. methyl dien is primarily used for cutting/lean mass cycles, as it is not known as a good mass builder. 4ohn/m4ohn seems to be similar - with lean mass and good strength gains. However, according to two of the people (the only two I know of) that have completed a m4ohn cycle, said that there were far less sides and super easy recovery. They said that they noticed more strength gains from the methyl dien, but more sides.

[33Eagle]

this helps thanks. I can't seem to find much on the m4ohn your talking about. If it's not mithyle-d and not oxilol then what are the names and forms of it. I'm assuming the M stands for metholated right?


The searches I've done are not digging up much.
thank's for schooling me on this

[RRAdam]

Originally Posted by 33Eagle

The searches I've done are not digging up much.
thank's for schooling me on this

Thats because there arent any yet

m4ohn just came out a few weeks ago - not many people have tried it (including me) oxabal isnt methylated, so it may produced different results, but from results I have seen, both 4ohn and m4ohn are used more for cutting instead of bulking.

oxabol has an undecanoate ester attach, which may make it more stable orally, but its definately not as good orally as m4ohn, but it is easier on the liver.

Not sure on the price of oxabol, but since it has a "steroid name" I'm sure its expensive m4ohn is $35 a bottle.

m4ohn can only be found 2 places I know of - and it is known as, surprise, m4ohn

[zivre]

PLease tell me what is better regarding tribex
should I take it 5 days and 2 days of
or should I rake it 1 month and 1 week off

and regarding creatine should I cycle it or stay on it

Thanks
Ziv

[mikekaz123]

Hey im new and I want to get big fast. I was interested in testosterone. As a beginner what kind of tablets should i take? how much of it? how often? what routines should i get in involving: eating, lifting, and resting hours?

[mywetnightmares]

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[mikekaz123]

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