Test E, Cyp, Tren E

[thrillaM]

I have started a cycle of test e, cyp and tren e.
I got it as a blend in a 10 ml vile, 125 mg/ml each test and 150 mg/ml of tren.
I did my first shot in the shoulder on friday, did 1 cc
im doing the shots every 3 days.

Heres what i would like to know..
what kind of diet should i be on??

im 5'7 170lb not to sure about the bf% maybe 13 -15 max.. i have been takin
in a lot of protein around 300 grams it through iso shakes and chicken/ tuna..

i am tryin to cut carbs to a min is this a good idea?
im wondering should i be doing mild cardio everyday?
also i wanna get more deffined abs aswell should i be doing abs everyday after each workout?

i heard that tren will increase my body core a few weeks into the cycle so is it considered somewhat of a cutter??

my goal after this cycle is to get up 10lbs at least but cut down the bf%..
should i throw in som winny?? or any other cutter out there like clen??

thanks in advance..

[vassille]

Well, usually you want to ask these questions BEFORE you start not after. In all honesty that mix is for a mass gainer but you can also use it for cutter somewhat.
If this is your first cycle....and by the sounds of it it is....Tren is not what you want to start with!

It is hard to keep the bloat down with test e and cyp along with tren in the middle. Tren will not cause much bloat but the others will

You can try to cut, but from my experience with these mixes I would keep doage low if I were you. You can do cardio everyday if you want and this all depends how much food you eat to be able to cut BUT if I were you just do cardio 3-4x a week and train 3x with weights. Not sure what the final results would be to be honest but you will definitely see results. At this point I would not add anything else into the mix if I were you.
How long the cycle?
Do you have dostinex and AI on hand?
WHat is you cycle history?
What do you have for PCT?

[afminil]

Hey Vassille. What do you think of my 1st cycle:

200 Test Cyp
Tamoxefin ever other day
PCT = 1500 HCG every other day

I am not looking for mass just to feel better...more energy etc..
Any input would be helpful. I have read so much but it seems I still know little about this stuff.

Any diet restrictions that I should put in place, thanks.

[vassille]

That's 200mg/week I assume.

If you just looking to feel good 200mg a week is great dose to start. That would put you a little above the 1000ng/dl which is on the high end of natural test production.
What length do you have in mind?
As for diet, if you eat low fat, high protein(200-250g/day), medium carbs(200g/day) you can shed fat and built some muscle if you throw in 3x a week of cardio along with 3x a week weights. On workout days you can increase carbs higher than 200 to put on more muscle but just feel your way around it

At this dosage, unless you just prone to test gyno, no nolvadex is need it.
HCG, depending on length of time you it can be used in 2 ways. If you plan to stay on for longer than 10 weeks then I would do 250iux3 a week.
If under ten weeks, just use 1000iux5(i ssume you have 5000iu) after last shot of test for a total of 5 shots then take nolvadex for 3-4 weeks at 20mg ED

[lisan]

Originally Posted by vassille

Well, usually you want to ask these questions BEFORE you start not after. In all honesty that mix is for a mass gainer but you can also use it for cutter somewhat.
If this is your first cycle....and by the sounds of it it is....Tren is not what you want to start with!

It is hard to keep the bloat down with test e and cyp along with tren in the middle. Tren will not cause much bloat but the others will

You can try to cut, but from my experience with these mixes I would keep doage low if I were you. You can do cardio everyday if you want and this all depends how much food you eat to be able to cut BUT if I were you just do cardio 3-4x a week and train 3x with weights. Not sure what the final results would be to be honest but you will definitely see results. At this point I would not add anything else into the mix if I were you.
How long the cycle?
Do you have dostinex and AI on hand?
WHat is you cycle history?
What do you have for PCT?

I would to add to this if I may

My Friend if your your goal is too look and feel better? 200Mg Test weekly will be good for the sex drive that’s about it, you will have no need for Novadex nor HCG at that dose. I would also like to add unless you suffer from Gyno anti estro’s will cut your progress in half (No Need to use). PCT, unless you are doing heavy doses of Test, deca, Tren etc. I find that waiting 2 to 3 weeks after coming off your cycle, then add in 5000 iu of HCG, weekly with 50mg Clomid daily for no more then 3 weeks, using both the HCG and Clomid together works well but keep in mind.

HCG is only and LM mimicker, Clomid will get your natural test levels kicking not the HCG.

I feel HCG can do more damage then good in the long run to your natural productions if taken too long.

I would also like to add that Vassille has a great deal of education on the subject and please do not take personally or be offended if we may have different views. This is what makes these sites great

I have been cycling Gear now for 23 years and can say with confidence my health is 100%. And yes I take the time twice yearly to get my blood work done. I wonder who these doctors are that saying AS are killing thousands LOL

Peace

[vassille]

Originally Posted by lisan

I would to add to this if I may

My Friend if your your goal is too look and feel better? 200Mg Test weekly will be good for the sex drive that’s about it, you will have no need for Novadex nor HCG at that dose. I would also like to add unless you suffer from Gyno anti estro’s will cut your progress in half (No Need to use). PCT, unless you are doing heavy doses of Test, deca, Tren etc. I find that waiting 2 to 3 weeks after coming off your cycle, then add in 5000 iu of HCG, weekly with 50mg Clomid daily for no more then 3 weeks, using both the HCG and Clomid together works well but keep in mind.

HCG is only and LM mimicker, Clomid will get your natural test levels kicking not the HCG.

I feel HCG can do more damage then good in the long run to your natural productions if taken too long.

I would also like to add that Vassille has a great deal of education on the subject and please do not take personally or be offended if we may have different views. This is what makes these sites great

I have been cycling Gear now for 23 years and can say with confidence my health is 100%. And yes I take the time twice yearly to get my blood work done. I wonder who these doctors are that saying AS are killing thousands LOL

Peace

I definitely welcome your input Lisan, and I can see you have solid knowledge about this stuff as well...