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Old 03-14-2008, 12:22 PM
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ag e=34
height=5'7"
weight=190
lifting=a long time

diet=clean 300g protein 75-100gcarbs
calories= ive been cutting 235 down to 190 2100cals to 3500-4000
goals=clean bulk with increase in strength

cycle=500mgs wk test e
nova,aifm,clomid on hand

shot 1st inject last week.250mgs only to see if i had any allergies to oil or test.

felt scared to shoot but said **** it.it was alot easier than i thought. a little pain for an hour then nothing.

shot was on sat. tuesday i felt great but really tired.

i will update lifts and workouts starting sat.
my avatar has before pics.

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2nd shot ouch
i am very sore today
2ccs yesterday

i think im going to shoot 1 cc 2 times a week

bench
3 sets warmups
10x205
10x240
8x275 pb
185 to failure

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3 sets to failure

tricep pushdowns
stack 3 sets to failure

dips 3 sets to failure
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Old 03-16-2008, 09:29 PM
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ass still hurts
eating sucked today
3 sausage turkey
2 eggs
2 toast
3 hamburgers
veg
2 protein drinks

energy level coming back
cant wait to get into the gym tom.

pinning is very easy once you get past the initial fear.
i swear i can feel the test already.
weigh in tom.
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Good luck, bro. Can't wait to see how things work out for you.
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Good luck man! Just watch your diet, try to keep it clean but eat like crazy.
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up at 12pm
ate 3 eggs
3 sausage turkey
2 toasts
protein drink
black powder

workout:
back;
deadlifts 4 sets of 10 @ 225
lat pull downs 4 sets of 10
bent rows 4 sets 10 135,185,205,225

bis;4 sets 10 curls
1 set french curls( elbow started hurting)
rack run of 5 starting with 45 to 20 no stopping

light legs;
leg extensions 3 sets of 20
leg curls 3 sets of 20
(deadlifts)

veins are popping out

another protein drink

waiting for dinner - roast, potato and veg

no more pain in ass no sides of yet

working nights right now so will be eating a **** load more food

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Hey man, what do you think about MRI's Black Powder? I bought a tub of it several months back. The taste is so freaking aweful. It tastes like bubble-gum juice. Gah. I choked down a 1/4 of it but just stopped using it altogether.

You pretty satisfied with results from it?
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i like it. results r ok.
the best creatine ive had so far was no trac by mhp
im finishing this and going back to trac
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MC,

On your deads, why are you doing 4 sets of 10? I think most will tell you to add some weight and drop the reps. Warm up or whatever, but add some weight! Is there a medical reason (injury) that you aren't going heavy on deads?
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yeah i have a bulging disc in my neck
when ever i go heavy on deads it kills me
im usually out for a week or two when i aggravate it


i still get a nice stretch with this weight but will increase it by 10 ppounds every week until i notice the pain

i used to be able to do in the high 400s on this excercise

getting old sucks bro.lol
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not hungry at all today
forcing food down but it is making me sick

3 eggs
3 turkey sausage
2 toast
protein drink
black powder
gym

shoulders;
military presses 135-15 reps,185-10 reps,205 - 10reps,215-8 reps
side lateral 4 sets of 10
front raises 3 sets 10
barbell 3 sets 10

light chest;
decline bench 4 sets 10 pyramid weight
flys 3 sets 10

light tris;
seated dips to failure
close grip pushups to failure

i will be splitting shots up and will do 250mg tonight and sat

i know im doing alot of reps but i am really feeling the workouts.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:53 AM
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im very tired and sore today.

weight=194

4 pounds in 1 1/2 weeks

strength is increasing

im having a problem eating. i feel like i want to throw up when i try eating.
im not hungry at all.

any suggestions?

off today will do cardio today.

they worked our ass last night at work. night shift is killing me. 3 more weeks of it then back to daylight.
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Are you getting sick from trying to eat when you aren't hungry? Is that what you're referring to? If you think you aren't digesting quickly enough, considering picking up a digestive enzyme to help empty your stomach out a bit faster. As long as there is food in the bottom of your stomach, your body will be signaling complacency which makes eating hard.
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im very tired and sore today.

weight=194

4 pounds in 1 1/2 weeks

strength is increasing

im having a problem eating. i feel like i want to throw up when i try eating.
im not hungry at all.

any suggestions?

off today will do cardio today.

they worked our ass last night at work. night shift is killing me. 3 more weeks of it then back to daylight.
You could try,

Home made protein bars,

1 cup peanut butter, 8 tbsp honey, 1¼ cup whey protein owder, 1 cup oats.

Mix together the peanut butter and honey and microwave for 90 seconds. Add the remaining ingredients and mix well. Smooth into a baking tray and refrigerate for 20 minutes. Cut into 12 bars, wrap and store in the refrigerator.

Makes 12 bars. Per bar: 163kcal, 10.6g protein, 20g carbs, 6g fat.

To lower the carb level of these bars, leave ut some of the honey.

Or alternative meal replacements i.e. a better selection of carbs rather than the high sugar content bought ones.

1 tablespoon of natural peanut butter, half a cup of oats, 500ml of semi or 1% milk, 1 banana, 35g protein I used unflavored (not weight as this varies) 1t spoon of flaxseed ground, 1 tablespoon of honey and blend.

about another 500 calories in this easily.

Or

Have one, two or three consecutive no carbs days. This will bring on a hunger again. You may lose a little weight and strength but at the end of it you'll be craving carbs and ready to shove them in. So early into your cycle this wont have too much of an overall negative effect.


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hey surfer glad you could stop in. hope you will follow my log and give advice.

im going to try and cut carbs down to 30-50 grams for 3 days.

have you ever experienced this?
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im going to try and cut carbs down to 30-50 grams for 3 days.

have you ever experienced this?
I've never done it on cycle bu I have tried it during a bulk. It does what it says on the tin. By day three I was in Ketosis, but hungry as hell.

Include a small amount of complex carbohydrate at breakfast and at the evening meal, for example one slice of bread, and you must avoid fruit. Most of your carbs should be from the small amounts in your vegetables and in my case my Mrp's.

It's not something I would do on a regular basis.

Mine went like this for three days. Pretty bland but you can handle it because its only for a short period of time.... Like I've said you'll looking to get tucked in afterwards.

7.30 1 scoop whey protein in water

8.00 breakfast 1 slice of dry toast
1 MRP in water

10.30 ½ scoop whey protein in water
1 small chicken breast

12.30 Tuna
½ small chicken breast
Huge salad

3.00 ½ scoop whey protein in water
1 small chicken breast

5.00 1 MRP in water

TRAIN

6.30 (after training) 2 scoops whey protein in water

7.30 Tuna
½ small chicken breast
1 tblsp brown rice
Huge salad / vegetables

10.00 ½ scoop whey protein
½ small chicken breast

11.30 1 scoop whey protein in water

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I get the feeling of throwing up sometimes too, not sure why but I'll have a light breakfast and pick up the rest of my calories during the day when that happens. Carb cycling will help with that issue
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Digestive enzymes FTW.

I've never had any trouble eating. The only time I did was during PCT after my Havoc cycle last year.

The rapid weight gain you are getting is water, weight will go up real fast during the first couple of weeks. Should settle down some (slower gains) after that.

How much AIFM you running?
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