mcchunter 1st cycle

[mcchunter]

about 3 more weeks

[Danbo]

How's progress bro? Inquring minds want to know!

Dan

[mcchunter]

i havent posted in a while. cycle is still going strong.

did back today (no deads my neck was hurting)

5 sets pullups x12
bentrows 135x5,185x5,225x5,250x5,275x5
rope pulls 3 sets 150# to failure
cable rows 3 sets ending with 210

im really considering the 5x5program. any comments?

[vassille]

Are you about to finish your cycle?

[mcchunter]

yes 1 more week

will post pictures next week

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

NICE, we will be waiting

[joemomma]

5x5 is a solid program, once you figure where your proper weights are. You should need some help on the last set if you are doing it right.

[mcchunter]

the way i read the 5x5 is you work up to your 5th set.

example:say deadlift 5 rep max is 315

then you would go 5x225,5x250,5x275,5x300,5x315

is this correct?

[joemomma]

That's the traditional 5x5. Boyd has finally gotten through to me about pyramidding though (although I imagine with the 5x5 it is OK). I tend to do 5x5 with one weight (after warmups), for example on flat bench I do 5x5 @ 225. No wasted energy on lighter sets.

[mcchunter]

i hear where your coming from joe but this is not a principle of the 5x5.

i would think over time ,lifting like that 5x5 of your max reps,would take its toll on your ligaments,joints, and tendons. and if your getting 5 reps for 5 sets of your max ,is your 5 rep max really being acclomplished? also, bill star says that this could lead to overtraining.

i would like other opions on this so please chime in! this is only an opion and would like different ones.

[joemomma]

It's not really a 5 rep max ( I can get 225x10). I could go up, say like 245x5, but I've been slacking lately and can't get more than a couple sets at 245. I stick with the 225 to get plenty of volume. I've pretty much been doing this since last winter and haven't noticed any OT problems. YMMV.

[mcchunter]

i think that is where ramping up would help you out.
every week you could add 5 pounds to your 5 rep max.

in a months time you could possibly add 10-20 pounds to your 5 rep max.

get what im saying?

[joemomma]

Yes I do, I've read up on the traditional 5x5 a good bit. Most folks seem to get some nice increases after 4-6 weeks. I'll stick with what I'm currenlty doing until I can get a more solid lifting schedule going. I'm currently having a hard time getting to the gym because life, as we all know, can get crazy sometimes.

[mcchunter]

tried 5x5 and joints cant take it. my elbows are the worst.
anyway, pct has started and im tired all of the time.

after pct i will begin to cut.

thinking of going back to school to become a nutrionalist. im 35 with 2 kids so it will be tough.

im in the labor's union now. i dont think my body will be able to take the pounding for the next 30 years of my life. so i need to find a new career.

[afminil]

how did you feel when you just shot the 250?? Thats all I am going to shoot. Thanks

[mcchunter]

250 mgs was easy and really had no problem.

when i shot 500, sometimes i would get a lump half the size of my ass.
i believe it was the build up of oil that did this. hot baths and a heating pad took care of it.

i only shot 250 at the beginning of my cycle to see if i was going to have any problems.(allergies)

what type of ester r u running?

[tribal]

I've only read a handful of posts in this thread, but dude... you need more carbs in your diet.

[tribal]

Try HST instead. Its designed to get your joints up to par and you still hit 5's at the end of each mesocycle.

Now that I've finally got my HST routine nailed down, I don't think I'll ever work out in a non-HST fashion again.

Originally Posted by mcchunter

tried 5x5 and joints cant take it.

[joemomma]

Linky for HST Tribal? Thx!

[tribal]

Hypertrophy-Specific Training : : Official Home of HST

It's a lot to read, but once you "get it", and do your first cycle, you'll be in love!