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i think test is starting to kick in weight is the same hungrier then all hell starting to notice my traps a little more ass is still sore from weds. shot took 300mgs of deca today may up this to 4-5oomgs? a little acne starting to show up on shoulder i was thinking of cutting week 10-16 and adding either clen or winny in
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I'd stick to test-only for the first time, but YMMV. You should not worry about cutting at all, this is about size/strength. Once you get some meat on ya, you will be more able to reduce body fat. Trying to cut would hinder your gains somewhat, due to restricted calories or whatever, although you might look into cutting out some carbs towards the end.
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joe-yeah test and deca for now
im going to have to watch my diet cause im starting to blow out in my stomach weight today is 203 shoulders today military press-225x5reps hit goal new goal is 245x5 arnold press 3 sets x10 reps side laterals 2x10 shoulders started to burn really bad and throb had to stop workout also injected last week and my ass is still swollen like a lump not red or hot or itchy lump is starting to go down today a little
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test def kicked in deadlifts-250x10 275x8 300x6 bent rows 135x10x2 185x5 210x6 230x6 laying rows 3sets of 10 cable rows 4 x10 curls 4x 10 hammer dumbell 3x10 cable curls 3xfailure arms were pumped like never before and i can see my back starting to v training was intense and i did not want to stop sides=bloating took 3 pumps of aifm
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training is going great up about 20 pounds on most of my lifts gained 10 pounds mostly in my stomach i see no physical appearance difference yet start of week 5 i can feel the test. not drinking alot of water. wondering if this could be part of the problem as to not seeing physical changes. diet is good i believe example: 5am 3 eggs 3 turkey sausage two pieces of rye toast glass of cranberry juice and protein shake w/milk 9am protein shake and cashews 12pm two turkey patties on rye w/pickle 4pm protein shake w/milk gym pw shake 6pm two pieces of roast carrots 8pm protein shake and a scoop of peanut butter bedtime any advice?
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Dude, judging by your example, you're still not eating NEAR enough. As well, you need more real protein sources later in the evening. Right now, you're using 5 protein shakes. Protein shakes are good for keeping that positive nitrogen balance through the day, but to build mass you NEED SUBSTANCE.
Start trying to incorporate more chicken, fish, some beef, and other sources like cottage cheese into your diet throughout the day. You arent going to add mass, even on test, without eating A LOT.
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- breakfast is good.... - no pre-workout meal and before that your last meal was 4 hours before. Your pre-workout meal should be the largest carb meal of the day (90-120 minutes before)..... - no post-workout meal!!! that meal should be huge as well dude. shake just doesn't cut it after you train...... - wtf is a "roast carrot"? - you have no dinner and actually your last real meal was at noon.... here is what your layout should look like: - 5am - what you have listed is fine (I'd personally eat more carbs) - 8am - protein & fat source - 11am - protein & fat source - 2:30pm - carb & protein source (a sh*t-ton of carbs) - 6pm (or whenever you finish training) - carb & protein source - 8pm - protein & fat source how much do you weigh dude?
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I agree. ALot more food. i also think 4 weeks is way to early to expect to see changes in the mirror. The strength gains are mostly placebo at this point. in other words, youve thought yourself stronger cause your taking Test. The mind is a powerful thing.
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jlo- roast and carrots lol
im going to cut down on the shakes and add either chicken or steak the carbs- i have to be careful with this because im def carb sensitive i will add some more in before workouts joe-thats alot of water. alot of people say to drink a ton of water and i dont understand why.bloating? increase metabolism? mitch-test has def kicked in. i feel so intense when im working out. i am also getting a little more irritated easier. thank you guys for your help. i really do mean that. i hope you will continue to follow this log and give advice. going to gym.
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Yea add some more food and post that up to see how you're doing. One thing I really suggest is cottage cheese!
Cause in all seriousness, I weigh 185lbs and I'm eating more than you.
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 My goal is actually your leanness (BF% wise). I'm just terrified of eating less or else I'd finally be there.
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I was just messing with you, Neil. I'm about as lean as a sumo wrestler, haha. My bottom two abs are still being relentlessly stubbourn and refuse to show up unless I'm working out. My lower belly flab is clinging on for dear life and my ass could put Jennifer Lopez to shame.
I'm still working on cutting but I'm being as careful as possible to maintain my muscle and hopefully add a little along the way. Sorry for the hijack!
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You need water, our muscles are full of it. Also, drinking more water will actually help with bloating, as you guessed. ANYONE that is weight training consistently should be consuming upwards of a gallon a day, more if you are running enhanced supplementation.
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so far i drank 1.5 gallons of water today. im pissing every 15 minutes.
went to store today and bought 20# of fillet mignon,10# of ground top sirloin 92%,5# breakfast sausage, 1 whole roaster chicken,5# of chicken thighs, cottage cheese,bacon,and a 5# pork roast im ready to start eating!!!! question? i got laid off from work for 3 weeks. do you think i should start working out each body part 2x a week? weight is 201
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It's up to you, if you think you can handle the volume/intensity then why not? Just make sure to get plenty of rest for each part before you hit it again. Even with gear, you can overtrain. You could go something like legs/push/pull/rest, repeat.
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