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Roehrigs01 Methyl-Vol / Trenadrol Pulse Log
***retro-info from 09-09-2007***
Alright, going to kick off this Pulse cycle here soon with some EST Methyl-Vol & Kilosports Trenadrol. Methyl-Vol is basically a Superdrol clone w/ some liver support & some other stuff added. Trenadrol is non-methyl 'ph' that I am stacking in there as well. I was going to go with some Havoc instead of the MV, but wanted to kick it up a notch since it was a pulse. I did an 4wk Epidrol cycle (Havoc clone) a bit ago with a 2 week Nolva PCT and 2 weeks off. Strength gains were good, did loose about 20% of those gains though. I can definitely notice that. Goal: Gain LBM / Cut Fat.... See what this stuff can do for me...really want to kick my strength up more & more... Expected start: Sunday, September 23rd, 2007. Pulse: Taken 3 days a week on workout days (Tuesday night, Thursday night & Sunday Morning). Workout dosage plan: Wk1: 2caps MV (1 pre / 1 post) wk2: 2caps MV (1 pre / 1 post), 1cap TR (pre) wk3: 2caps MV (1 pre / 1 post), 2cap TR (1 pre / 1 post) wk4+: To be determined... Notes: Going to start off easy and change as needed to find what works the best for me. I plan on experimenting with dosage and diet to see what combination has the most effects and how much is too much. Since this pulse is not really well tested and/or documented, the possibilty is high for a lot of changes each week during this cycle with dosage, diet, other supplements, etc. However, I will only make changes on the Sunday that I post the weekly report and will keep those changes until the next report, unless a health issue comes up. Also, I do have Nolvadex on hand, incase any indication of gyno comes up as well.
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH Last edited by roehrigs01; 09-25-2007 at 10:27 AM. 
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09-25-2007, 10:26 AM
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Today is Sunday, August 23th and the start of this pulse log.
Weight on wake-up: 156.0 (taken on Monday morning due to no reading Sunday morning) BF: 11.1% by bf caliper to the same suprailliac spot as usual. (taken on Monday morning due to no reading Sunday morning) Diet: about 2800-3200 cals ED... 40p/40c/20f w/ some sporadic protein shakes thrown in when I think it is needed. Dosage last week: n/a-start of cycle Sides experienced this week: n/a-start of cycle Other supplements: 1 Multi-V nightly ED (Costco-Kirkland Performance), 3g Fish Oil ED (omega 3-6-9), 50mg DHEA (non-wo days), 1 Scoop No-xplode pre WO General feelings / mental state: Feel fine / normal. Workout days this past week: n/a-start of cycle Current Injuries: none Current Stats (1RM): bench 163 squat 215 dead 273 total 651 Changes for this next week: Wk1: 2caps MV (1 pre / 1 post wo) Notes: This is the start of the cycle. Looks like I will be doing 3 weeks on and 1 week off, due to being in DC for the third week of Oct. Will go back on after that week off. These first 3 weeks is pretty much an experiment to see what dosage works the best for me. Going to take my first dose soon and head to the gym about 4pm HST.
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09-25-2007, 11:01 AM
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Pretty much... more kick per dose though...Then again you do get 90 tabs with GL and only 60 with KS...
KS Trenadrol - 17b-methoxy-Trienbolone: 3mg GL MegaTrn: 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone 2mg
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH Last edited by roehrigs01; 09-25-2007 at 11:08 AM.
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09-25-2007, 12:29 PM
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Change to Workout Dosage Plan:
wk2 (30Sep - 6Oct): 2caps TR (1 pre / 1 post) wk3 (7 - 13 Oct): 2caps MV (1 pre / 1 post) / 1cap TR (pre) wk4 (14 - 20 Oct): none - break due to being in DC. wk5 (21 - 27 Oct) : 2caps MV (1 pre / 1 post) / 1cap TR (pre) wk6 (28 Oct - 03 Nov) : 2caps MV (1 pre/ 1 post) / 2cap TR (1 pre/ 1 post) depending on how the 2MV/1TR does me... wk7+: to be determined... Note: I was going to do 2MV/1TR next week... but want to give the TR a week solo run to experience what it does to/for me...
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09-25-2007, 01:40 PM
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On pulsing, have you read that it might take longer to start to feel the effects? I haven't done that much digging on pulsing...Just wondering, as that would make sense to me. I guess that's why you're able to run it longer?
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09-25-2007, 02:08 PM
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Pulsing is suppose to give you 60% of the gain, 60% of the short-term sides and 40% of the long term sides when compared to doing a usual oral cycle for the same timeframe, say 4 weeks. Also, since the sides are lower, support supplements can supposedly be bypassed as well as the PCT since your body isn't completely dependent on/use to it. Plus, you can go for a longer duration on the pulse, like 8-10 weeks and supposedly keep most, if not all, of your gains. Bad is it rollercoasters your hormones over the long term due to outside chemicals, when with full cycles you are slowing going on, staying on and then going off them, hence the PCT to recover and get your body back to normal asap.
The pulse theory sounds great.. However, there are numerous opinions either really for or really against it. I like the sounds of it, especially with the money saved on support supplements, the amount of pills intaking daily, lessened side effects, pct considerations, etc... compared to a full cycle. So, I decided to do a self-experiment to figure out exactly what pulse does or doesn't do... I do have some Nolva on hand, incase I need it in a hurry... also, do have some 6-oxo, incase I need an AI to help stablize levels on off-days... What I am hoping to get from this is some good gains over the long run. I understand that it supposedly will not come as fast as if I did a full cycle, but that is fine as long as they do come and at a rate that is significantly higher than if I did no cycle at all. I am really turned off with the amount of supporting supplements I had to take along with the Epidrol my last cycle. The amount and having to coordinate the dosage of everything.. also, if I did need to stop the cycle for some reason, I would still have to do a PCT.. With pulsing, you supposedly can just stop and all will be well...
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Me: 34, 5-9, 155, 10% - The ECTOMORPH Last edited by roehrigs01; 09-25-2007 at 02:49 PM. Reason: my brain is slow...
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09-26-2007, 07:30 AM
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Sounds good. I didn't like all the crap I was having to take with Havoc either. Seemed like it took me at least 5 minutes every morning to measure, swallow, and prepare all the crap I had to take along with my standards. I also like the sound of keeping more of the gains, as I've lost about half of what I gained with my first Havoc cycle.
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09-30-2007, 10:19 AM
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Today is Sunday, September 30th. End of Week 1/ Beginning of week 2.
Weight on wake-up: 156.4 (start: 156.0) BF: 11.0% (start: 11.1%) by bf caliper to the same suprailliac spot as usual (avg of 3). Diet: about 2500-3000 cals ED... 40p/40c/20f w/ some sporadic protein shakes thrown in when I think it is needed. Dosage last week: 2 caps MV (1 pre/1 post wo) Other supplements: 1 Multi-V nightly ED (Costco-Kirkland Performance), 3g Fish Oil ED (omega 3-6-9), 50mg DHEA (non-wo days), 1 Scoop NO-Xplode pre WO Sides experienced this week: None. General feelings / mental state: Same as usual. Workout days this past week: Cardio on Mon & Fri morning. Lifting on Sun, Tues, Thurs. Current Injuries: none Current Stats (1RM): bench 174 (start:163) squat 215 (start:215) dead 282 (start:273) total 671 (start:651) Plan for next week: 2caps TR (2 pre) Notes: Took the 2 cap dosage on Sun, Tues & Thursday. Monday, I swear I had sensitive nipples... but didn't have it the other off days...so must of been mental. During the week I usually work out about 5pm. Tuesday night, I took the post dose about bedtime and I slept like crap. Was tired as hell the next day. Also, usually I take 1 scoop NO-Xplode before my WO, Thursday I didn't and only took an "energy pill"....I noticed my energy was fine but set reps were down on the last set an average of 1-3 reps on all sets. Can't tell if the DHEA is doing anything for me. At wk5, I might try 6-oxo in place of it as an off-day test booster. This week I am going with 2 TR on wo days along with NO-Xplode to see what the TR does to/for me before I start mixing the MV & TR.
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10-07-2007, 10:20 AM
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Today is Sunday, October 7th. End of Week 2/ Beginning of week 3.
Weight on wake-up: 157.0 (start: 156.0) BF: 11.1% (start: 11.1%) by bf caliper to the same suprailliac spot as usual (avg of 3). Diet: about 2500-3000 cals ED... 40p/40c/20f w/ some sporadic protein shakes thrown in when I think it is needed. Dosage last week: 2 caps TR (1 pre/1 post wo) Other supplements: 1 Multi-V nightly ED (Costco-Kirkland Performance), 3g Fish Oil ED (omega 3-6-9), 50mg DHEA (non-wo days), 1 Scoop NO-Xplode pre WO Sides experienced this week: None. Didn't notice anything. General feelings / mental state: Same as usual. Workout days this past week: Cardio on Mon & Fri morning. Lifting on Sun, Tues, Thurs. Current Injuries: none Current Stats (1RM): bench 169 (start:163) squat 213 (start:215) dead 278 (start:273) total 660 (start:651) Plan for next week: 2caps MZ/2Caps TR (pre wo) Notes: nothing to report really. Doing 2 of each this week and taking a break next week due to being in DC. Due to the dosage, swapping out DHEA and adding in 2caps 6-oxo morning and night, when I didn't take the MV/TR.
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10-09-2007, 11:18 AM
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Quick update: Last sunday, I took the dosage for this week (week 3 at 2MV/2TR pre-wo) before my Sunday morning wo, along with the usual 1 scoop NO-Xplode... And I must say that was the best workout I have had in a long while...strength was at its peak and definitely better than usual. And with no sides on Monday or today.
Going to try it again today after work to see if it happens again.
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10-15-2007, 12:07 AM
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Today is Sunday, October 14th. End of Week 3/ Beginning of week 4.
Weight on wake-up: 157.8 (start: 156.0) BF: 11.1% (start: 11.1%) by bf caliper to the same suprailliac spot as usual (avg of 3). Diet: about 2500-3000 cals ED... 40p/40c/20f w/ some sporadic protein shakes thrown in when I think it is needed. Dosage last week: 2 caps MV & 2 caps TR (All pre-wo) Other supplements: 1 Multi-V nightly ED (Costco-Kirkland Performance), 3g Fish Oil ED (omega 3-6-9), 4caps 6-oxo (2morning/2evening), 1 Scoop NO-Xplode pre WO Sides experienced this week: None. Didn't notice anything. General feelings / mental state: Same as usual. Workout days this past week: Cardio on Mon morning. Lifting on Sun, Tues, Thurs. Current Injuries: none Current Stats (1RM): bench 205 (start:163) squat 223 (start:215) dead 281 (start:273) total 709 (start:651) Plan for next week: cardio mone and thenbreak due to being on business trip to DC the rest of the week. Might hit gym at the hotel, but no pills. And might hit the gym here starting next sunday depending on jetlag. Notes: The 2caps MV & TR really kick it up in the gym... I will be trying this again after next week. My bench was crazy today and that's no bs... I hope my squats & deads do that too when I get back from the week break...
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10-19-2007, 03:54 PM
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Wow you do alot of PH cycles! Sounds like this one is going well, question though for myself. Are they worth it, cause I been kicking around the idea of a Havoc cycle but not sure that its worth it in respect to sides and actually keeping your gains?
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Take delight in the LORD, and he will give you the desires of your heart.. Psalm 37:4
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10-21-2007, 01:29 AM
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I am thinking and hoping that pulsing will help boost test levels a bit to build muscle faster.... instead of the typical hormonal shutdown, body relying on the ph fully and having to bring your hormones back to normal levels at the end, which usually happens during a full cycle... Pulsing will have lower gains per average then full cycles… but so what… better to make slow gains that will stay then to make fast and loose an unknown amount too…
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10-21-2007, 06:05 PM
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Today is Sunday, October 21st. End of Week 4/ Beginning of week 5.
Weight on wake-up: 154.8 (start: 156.0) BF: 11.3% (start: 11.1%) by bf caliper to the same suprailliac spot as usual (avg of 3). Diet: about 2000 ED. Dosage last week: none Other supplements: 1 Multi-V nightly ED (Costco-Kirkland Performance), 3g Fish Oil ED (omega 3-6-9). Sides experienced this week: None. Didn't notice anything. Libido fine. General feelings / mental state: Same as usual. Workout days this past week: Lifting on Sun. Cardio on Tues. Current Injuries: none Current Stats (1RM): bench 180 (start:163) squat 248 (start:215) dead 308 (start:273) total 735 (start:651) Plan for next week: Back to the gym & cardio. Normal 3 days-a-week routine. 2MV/1TR (pre-wo) Notes: The only gym day was last sunday. Went to the gym today... lifts were good, except my bench press was down... don't really know why...maybe I needed to rest more between sets... everything else was same or better. Maybe just the typical up & downs of lifting. Took 2mv/2 tr & 1 scoop No-Xplode pre-wo... got light-headed on squats and deads. going to try 2mv/1tr this week.
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10-22-2007, 09:56 AM
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10-25-2007, 07:42 AM
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You use a watch for your resting? That's something that my partner got me to doing....he always brings a stopwatch and we do exactly three minutes between sets, sometimes two depending on the lift. What I noticed is at the start of the day, I would want to only rest for a minute or so, but by the end, I tended to get up to around 5. Keeping it at three (or two) measured has helped.
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