12 week Test E & Dbol - Page 4 - BodybuildingForYou

NPayette · #61 (**permalink**) 03-26-2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jlozan84

I hear ya man........what about an AI like Armidex or AIFM? Would less bloat = less back cramping ??

I guess

. I have Letro on hand. If the back pump become unbearable to the point of being a nuisance to my workout I will...

jlozan84 · #62 (**permalink**) 03-30-2007, 04:57 PM

So, did you bloat up and explode?

How about an update?

vassille · #63 (**permalink**) 03-30-2007, 10:41 PM

I'll definitely consider something for estrogen control. I personally do not think is all that good to hold that much water
Good luck with the rest of the cycle

NPayette · #64 (**permalink**) 03-31-2007, 01:04 PM

Weight is 208.
Strenght is going up fast but nothing extraordinary fancy... The back pump are now HELL! I think of stopping Dbol sooner then expected... I can barely walk around without it hurting too much.

surferph34 · #65 (**permalink**) 04-01-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NPayette

Weight is 208.
Strenght is going up fast but nothing extraordinary fancy... The back pump are now HELL! I think of stopping Dbol sooner then expected... I can barely walk around without it hurting too much.

Increase your daily water intake and watch your diet for high sodium levels. It may help.

Surfer

NPayette · #66 (**permalink**) 04-02-2007, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by surferph34

Increase your daily water intake and watch your diet for high sodium levels. It may help.

Surfer

daily water intake now exceed 2 gallon a day and back pump are worst then ever

surferph34 · #67 (**permalink**) 04-02-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NPayette

daily water intake now exceed 2 gallon a day and back pump are worst then ever

I know how you feel. Every leg session I had while on Im lying on the floor in between sets.

I think its time you got an AI like the lads have already suggested or drop the Dbol completely.

Surfer

NPayette · #68 (**permalink**) 04-03-2007, 08:49 PM

So today it's been 3 week and 3 days, am I suppose to feel the test???

For the Dbol it seems like the lower back pump is less (I switched to 10mg every 6 hour compared to 5mg every 3 hour for some reason it seems like it's better on me?)

Strenght is going up fast (nothing extra fancy tho)
Added 180 pound on leg press (630 x 7)
Added 25 pound on the bench press (free weight) (250 x 15(RP))
Added 50 pound on the deadlift (365 x 6)
Added 45 pound on the leg curl (130 x 8)
Added 45 pound on the military press (smythe) (225 x 16(RP))
Added 70 pound on the RGBP (smythe) (225 x 18(RP))
Added 20 pound on the Barbell Curl (125 x 14(RP))
Added 30 pound on EZ Skull Crusher (125 x 18(RP))

This is in about 3 weeks.
*only Dbol has kicked in
*Some of this strenght gain is just old strenght regained from my old blast. (I cruized for a month so I came back weaker)

vassille · #69 (**permalink**) 04-03-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NPayette

So today it's been 3 week and 3 days, am I suppose to feel the test???

For the Dbol it seems like the lower back pump is less (I switched to 10mg every 6 hour compared to 5mg every 3 hour for some reason it seems like it's better on me?)

Strenght is going up fast (nothing extra fancy tho)
Added 180 pound on leg press (630 x 7)
Added 25 pound on the bench press (free weight) (250 x 15(RP))
Added 50 pound on the deadlift (365 x 6)
Added 45 pound on the leg curl (130 x 8)
Added 45 pound on the military press (smythe) (225 x 16(RP))
Added 70 pound on the RGBP (smythe) (225 x 18(RP))
Added 20 pound on the Barbell Curl (125 x 14(RP))
Added 30 pound on EZ Skull Crusher (125 x 18(RP))

This is in about 3 weeks.
*only Dbol has kicked in
*Some of this strenght gain is just old strenght regained from my old blast. (I cruized for a month so I came back weaker)

In any case the strenght is coming up fast which is a good sign. Keep taking the dbol until you feel the test kick in then cruise bro

NPayette · #70 (**permalink**) 04-10-2007, 09:56 AM

Okay so I've been out of town since last wednesday, today I'll hit the gym again

I dropped the Dbol on sunday I still have some lower back pump pain but less.

I am 215 pound now - 18% bf (Slight increase) / strenght is going up steadily.

I am feeling tired, full, heavy, bloated. Energy level on a D2D basis is 5/10. Really I feel like crap + I am lazy as hell these days... My libido is back to normal (It was very super high with the Dbol)

I don't know if the Test has kicked in?

surferph34 · #71 (**permalink**) 04-10-2007, 11:16 AM

How many weeks are you in?

Surfer

NPayette · #72 (**permalink**) 04-10-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by surferph34

How many weeks are you in?

Surfer

Beggining of week 5.

I did my workout today, I had massive pump (PAINFUL PUMPS) all over my body...

Doing chest and after my chest is so pumped that I could barely stretch it without TREMENDOUS pain.

Doing shoulder and after that they were so TIGHT i could barely move... Had to sit for a while for them to go back to <normal>

When I walk out of the gym my shins and my calves got so TIGHT when walking that I had to stop in pain to relax and let them unpump...

This is crazy ****!

So painfulll....

NPayette · #73 (**permalink**) 04-10-2007, 01:43 PM

On the + side, Strenght is going up fast now... And weight too (weight is going really high, really fast...

)

People has noticed that I have Widened a lot... I look like a friggin coke machine...

surferph34 · #74 (**permalink**) 04-10-2007, 03:43 PM

TBH it sounds like you bloating bad if its coming on that fast.

I have not experienced pumps like you talking about but I would'nt mind them.

Week 5 should see the Test well on its way.

Surfer

NPayette · #75 (**permalink**) 04-11-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by surferph34

TBH it sounds like you bloating bad if its coming on that fast.

I have not experienced pumps like you talking about but I would'nt mind them.

Week 5 should see the Test well on its way.

Surfer

Yeah I know it's mostly water don't worry

But it doesn't affect me...
So an other shot down today, it's amazing how easy it becomes after a few times...

NPayette · #76 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 04:49 PM

Okay so now I think I lost some of the water bloat from Dbol and my back cramping is 100% finish.

I am back at 208, so 7 pound less in 5-6 days.

derek anthony · #77 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NPayette

Okay so now I think I lost some of the water bloat from Dbol and my back cramping is 100% finish.

I am back at 208, so 7 pound less in 5-6 days.

Orals Orals Orals !!! BAD....but live and learn I did....good luck

DA

NPayette · #78 (**permalink**) 04-13-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by derek anthony

Orals Orals Orals !!! BAD....but live and learn I did....good luck

DA

I will

, But Dbol seems to be pretty mild (from what I heard and read) so no big deal, I have Liv54 on hand and milk thistle.

Next cycle I will prolly be using Prop instead or Enenth and will keep cycle lenght SHORT and sweet... Reading Cycles for pennies has got me some idea of what I want to do...