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Old 03-15-2007, 03:57 AM
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yes, give us an update. How long did you run it before stopping, why did you stop? Was it because of a girl, oh I be it was. damn it, I told you those hookers are evil, all they want is your money and IGF. Stupid women hookers, oh sure, everything is fun when you are naked, running around the room being chased by a naked woman in a pig mask screaming at you. But as soon as you bend over .. WHAM, the sdrol is gone, you feel violated and the IGF is no more....

...did I just say that outloud. No, not speaking from experience, this didn't happen to me, but a friend.
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yes, give us an update. How long did you run it before stopping, why did you stop? Was it because of a girl, oh I be it was. damn it, I told you those hookers are evil, all they want is your money and IGF. Stupid women hookers, oh sure, everything is fun when you are naked, running around the room being chased by a naked woman in a pig mask screaming at you. But as soon as you bend over .. WHAM, the sdrol is gone, you feel violated and the IGF is no more....

...did I just say that outloud. No, not speaking from experience, this didn't happen to me, but a friend.
dont worry happened to me too.. with the pig mask... and errrr.. woman and the chasing thing.........
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Old 03-15-2007, 05:39 PM
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j/lo - masterdrol(methyl) made me sicker than a dog with rabbies. i felt like i had the worst hangover. ran it for 5 days. it started about 12 hours in and just kept getting worse. i should of taken surfer,'s advice. anyway what do you think about running some winny(injectable) towards the end of the cycle to get rid of some fat?

hrpii- your just messed up man lol but seriously what do you think about adding the winny?
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Old 03-16-2007, 03:18 AM
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What are your expectation of the Winny/Var?

I also think the Test is way to low. Go to at least 500 mg a wk. Dbol is a good kickstart, but I wouldn't worry about the winny/var at this point. Get this completed first.
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You need to be very lean to benefit from winny, it makes no difference going from 16%bf to 14.
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hrpii-i dont know what i was thinking with the winny. ill wait to the next cycle to cut.im a bit bulky 5'7" 215# wanted to keep the weight but lose some fat.diet alone is just not doing it.


vassille-yeah im not lean enough for winny your def right.my only tough area is my stomach.my buddy says its weight lifters gut and not much i can do except diet and cardio. hes right.

i want to gain a solid 10 pounds of muscle and get ripped.this is what i expect to keep. thanks guys ill have to put some pics up before and aft6er.
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Old 03-16-2007, 05:07 AM
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Then the diet is not right. It takes some time to figure out what works and doesn't work. If you are tracking your meals, how much (exactly, no guestimating) protein, carbs, fat and calories did you have yesterday.

Mine, P-235, Carb-80,fat-80,cal-2000. Down to 217. Get the diet dialed in better.

AAS will help you hold on to some of that muscle better when you are restricting calories. But like diet pills, there is no magic AAS pill that will shred you up.
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i agree. no winny get diet in check
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