my cycle please view and give opinions

[mcchunter]

thanks craig ill have to look at everything im going to take and see if it has it in it.i am going to take taurine for pumps.


pat-yes this is my theory too.ive never used before and it will leave the door open later on. if i want to increase then i can.i want to see how my body reacts. also if i decide to do a second cycle i can do 400 or 500 then.what do you think about the methyl masterdrol?

[ryanbodybuilder]

dude 500mg of test enan is really only about 325mg of test...also at your weight you definately need to use 500mg of test enan.....trust me

[Patrick_Bateman]

Originally Posted by mcchunter

thanks craig ill have to look at everything im going to take and see if it has it in it.i am going to take taurine for pumps.


pat-yes this is my theory too.ive never used before and it will leave the door open later on. if i want to increase then i can.i want to see how my body reacts. also if i decide to do a second cycle i can do 400 or 500 then.what do you think about the methyl masterdrol?

I ran cycles at 400mg Test only till I hit 240 and could raw bench 485lbs, anyone who thinks you have to do 500mg clearly has never bothered to do less than 500-1000mg. The more is better idea gets worse every year, next thing tjhey will be telling you is you need 500g of protein a day

surferph34 I was not talking abouyt you on any of my posts here.

[mcchunter]

ryan- im gonna start at 325.i wanna make sure i can handle this amount before going any higher. where did you start at your 1st cycle? alot of people are saying go to 500.pct look ok to you bro?


pat-yeah im gonna start at 325.like i said before it is a starting point.

[surferph34]

Originally Posted by Patrick_Bateman

I ran cycles at 400mg Test only till I hit 240 and could raw bench 485lbs, anyone who thinks you have to do 500mg clearly has never bothered to do less than 500-1000mg. The more is better idea gets worse every year, next thing tjhey will be telling you is you need 500g of protein a day

surferph34 I was not talking abouyt you on any of my posts here.

No problem.

I too, was only pointing out that 500 mg is a general consensus, and generally widely accepted as a starting point.

This of course does not have to be the starting point; indeed everyone is different and has different approaches.

The only way he will know if this works for him is by trial and error.

Surfer

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by mcchunter

mitch - 1st of all thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
i will order some aifm today to have on hand. like i said bloating is my biggest concern because of bp.our stories are pretty similiar as far as age ,height, and weight. i was 235 im down to208 today.i studied your 1st cycle and your strength gains were awesome.i only hope i have the same success.ive ironed out my work out and diet which i believe is 80% of success.hope you continue to read and advise thank you


craig- thats a great question and i do not know the answer to that.do you believe this is so because of the caffeine and it would dehydrate me? what is your thought behind that? thank you


surfer-i am really only considering a test only cycle now. you got into my head.lol your awesome though bro i really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me.if i run test only,should i up my dosage from 325 or leave it?



mitch- if you know a good company to get aifm please pm me

thanks again everybody.

Right here. https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop...nfo.php?id=152

Originally Posted by surferph34

You welcome mate, anytime.

250mg have been run before with success, yours is slighty higher in mg.

However results are limited on lower cycle.

But like everything in AAS results are dependant on many factors.

IMHO 500mg is the starting point for a first cycle, with a good diet you will do well. On 325mg and a good diet you will also gain, just not as much.

With that in mind there is no need to go any higher than 500mg for a first cycle.

Surfer

I took 500 first time and blew up. In retrospect I feel i wouldve still done well with 325mg.

Originally Posted by ryanbodybuilder

dude 500mg of test enan is really only about 325mg of test...also at your weight you definately need to use 500mg of test enan.....trust me

I disagree. While youre right about it being less cause of the ester weight etc., Its still irrelevant cause it applies to everyone across the board. All it does is set the bar higher for future cycles. 80-100mg a week is a replacement dose. 325mg a week will give you approximately 3-4 times natural test levels of an 18 year old boy. Thats plenty to make good gains IMO.

[mcchunter]

mitch- thanks bro ill order tonight
im gonna start a log in the next several days for my cycle. hope you will join in and advise.

[vassille]

I think you all forgot about genetics. Some ppl need more or less test than others. At about 200lbs and around 6ft tall less than 500mg test is fine for many. From my experience ppl who get acne and stuff like that tend to blow up on test( I think they are more sensitive I do not have anything to back it up just my observation)-for me 500mg test is nothing, I can to 750test/500deca without any issues not even a pimple or skin problems. So, definitely it is genetic and everybody should adjust cycles to fit their genetic make up.

[dupa95]

Originally Posted by ryanbodybuilder

dude 500mg of test enan is really only about 325mg of test...also at your weight you definately need to use 500mg of test enan.....trust me

thankyou for pointing that out, But as you said everyone is diffrent. so do what you are comfortable with. Make darn sure you pct is solid and you got a plan if gyno pops up.

[mcchunter]

i have nolva on hand and i think im going to get some clomid also .
mitch suggested an aifm which i ordered.forza t has trib in it as well as 6 oxo and zma.this is probably overkill but id rather be safe then sorry.

[hrpiii]

Forza T is just overkill and save the 6-oxo for after PCT or something. After reading all the great post in here, it appears you have everything lined up you need. Always have everything on hand before you start and I believe you do along with a great plan ...plan A (everything goes right) and plan B (something pops up and the cycle needs to be stopped).

Having Nolva and Clomid is a great combo. So much on the net about which is better than the other. No one really cares what there thoughts on this is, the question you have to ask is "which is best for ME". And only you will find out and you go this cycle and PCT. You have done your research well. Plan this hard of work on your diet, and your cycle will be a huge success, no doubt in my mind.



Then later, you can run some IGF with me and Mitch **just had to throw this in there...hahaha **

[vassille]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

Then later, you can run some IGF with me and Mitch **just had to throw this in there...hahaha **

?Hehe, gave up on me lol

[mcchunter]

you guys are nuts lol
thanks everybody for your advise
my plan is set just waiting for a few more items to arrive in the mail.
cant hardly wait.

[vassille]

have fun bro

[jlozan84]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

Then later, you can run some IGF with me and Mitch **just had to throw this in there...hahaha **

And Lozan.

[hrpiii]

Got it.

Okay, then later you can run some IGF with me, Mitch, Vassille and Lozan

[vassille]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

Got it.

Okay, then later you can run some IGF with me, Mitch, Vassille and Lozan

That's better.......What's the starting point 250lbs and 9% bf?

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by vassille

That's better.......What's the starting point 250lbs and 9% bf?

215 lbs, 9%.

[mcchunter]

i have to change my cycle.looks like this now
1-4 dbol(i tried methyl masterdrol and couldnt do it)
1-12 test e @325
i may add winstrol or anavar to end of cycle.please give advice on this.
pct the same with supporting supps.

thanks again bros in advance