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Old 01-26-2007, 09:03 AM
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Coming soon...
Just put the order in and with some folks with an awesome TA.
Here is what I am looking at:

8 week cycle
1-8 50mg Test Prop ED
1-6 37.5mg Tren Ace ED


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Day 1-4: 120mg Toremifene / 200mg DHEA
Day 5-9: 90mg Toremifene / 200MG DHEA
Day 10-16: 60mg Toremifene / 25mg DHEA
Day 17-28: 30mg Toremifene / 25mg DHEA

Prop pain should be tolerable, it is 2% BA / grapeseed oil.
I have Nolva and Clomid on-hand but want to go with Toremifene as I have heard of the lower liver toxicity and lack of blurred vision, not to mention it is said to just out and out work better to help you recover.
Also have Letro and A-Dex on-hand, so I am all set for the worst of the worst, should it happen.
This is my first cycle with Tren. The dosage is a little big for first-time but weighing in at 265 I am pretty close if not, at my genetic potential so I went with an intermediate dosage. ED injections are to keep levels in my blood constant to reduce any sides. Plan to inject with 25g pin. loading both in a single pin. Will also be pinning new places since this is ED. Gonna try traps and lats and tri's. FUN!!
As soon as all shipments arrive I will begin.

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:20 AM
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Looks good, the only thing I might change is drop the SD and add dbol, but it's not a big deal.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:30 AM
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Looks good, the only thing I might change is drop the SD and add dbol, but it's not a big deal.
LOL..everyone has said that, but when SD came out everyone was taking it. THe dbol would cost and I already have 2 bottle of SD so I am gonna take that. The sides on it were minimal for me, just back pumps, healthy does of taurine should help that. And I am actuallynot sure if I want to bother. Just don't wanna trash them..
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:32 AM
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If Tren Ace has the same "possible" sides as Tren, I would be more concerned about that than SD anyway.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:35 AM
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I wouldnt run the tren and SD together. Id drop the SD altogether. save it for a rainy day.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:36 AM
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If Tren Ace has the same "possible" sides as Tren, I would be more concerned about that than SD anyway.
Ohhhh, JLo, you started reading on Tren you are tempted by the biggest demon of them all MUHAHAHAHAHA!

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:47 AM
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If Tren Ace has the same "possible" sides as Tren, I would be more concerned about that than SD anyway.
It is tren..there is tren e or enan and tren a or acefor acetate. Tren E is the slow version, like test e test cyp, whereas tren ace is the fast acting esther like test prop. Both are Tren.

Ok..gonna drop the SD by popluar demand and cause I want to be cool in all of your eyes...cycle info has been updated to reflect no SD.

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Old 01-26-2007, 10:01 AM
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Good luck. 8 weeks of prop/tren is my next cycle. already got the goods.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:41 AM
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Good luck. 8 weeks of prop/tren is my next cycle. already got the goods.
and IGF.. you forgot to tell him that
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and IGF.. you forgot to tell him that
I don't want to hijack Sean's thread, but I'd like to hear some discussion about peptides and IGF in particular. So maybe someone in the know could start a new thread, hint hint.
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525mg of tren A a week is way too much. Considering that you cant even bench 300lbs at 260+ tells me you are not ready for another cycle, and if you just have to do a cycle do about 1/2 of what you posted.

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Old 01-31-2007, 06:12 AM
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Yeah, i didnt even notice that. I thought it was 75mg eod and that seems like a better dosage. Same with the prop. Go EOD or cut the ED injections in half.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:09 AM
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525mg of tren A a week is way too much. Considering that you cant even bench 300lbs at 260+ tells me you are not ready for another cycle, and if you just have to do a cycle do about 1/2 of what you posted.
LOL..I can bench 300...where did you get that idea? I just choose not to. I don't bench, that is a vanity excercise. I do DB presses and that builds power for me. Now for DB presses I use 125# DB. Anyone who does DB then goes to BB will tell yah it is different and therefore ya have to start lower. Sheesh..... Like I am some weak-azz sumthin or other...

Besides, it was a typo
That was my dosage for EOD injections but I think ED injects will casue less sides so it should be half of that.

Can't lift 300...attack a man's ego why don't you.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:49 AM
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Yes, ED injects will keep the blood levels even and you should have less sides.
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LOL..I can bench 300...where did you get that idea? I just choose not to. I don't bench, that is a vanity excercise. I do DB presses and that builds power for me. Now for DB presses I use 125# DB. Anyone who does DB then goes to BB will tell yah it is different and therefore ya have to start lower. Sheesh..... Like I am some weak-azz sumthin or other...

Besides, it was a typo
That was my dosage for EOD injections but I think ED injects will casue less sides so it should be half of that.

Can't lift 300...attack a man's ego why don't you.
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Just going by your journal, EOD at those doses is better.

The dead lifts look good...400x5 is a solid lift
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Old 01-31-2007, 11:26 AM
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Yeah, I know what you are basing it on. That is why I stated that I don't BB bench, just for the record.
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:57 AM
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Just dropping in here after my first week to check in.
Things should start picking up now.
I am doing ED injects and have gotten use to them. Using L/R delt, L/R lat, L/R tricep and left glute only. The frist round of shots were bad but now this it's all eazy-breezy. barely any soreness at all.
I am still doing the 5x5 but was doing a deload last week, so actually a 3x3. This week I have a new 4 day split that I will be doing for the next 6 weeks then a 3x3 deload again. Once I get into PCT I plan to start the 5x5 over again since it is simple and works very effectively on me.
Anyway, I will pop in with an update every few days or so.
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:34 AM
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how do you do that Lat shot, that would be tough. I think I would cramp if I tried to twist around that way.

Are you doing 75 mg Tren ED, or 37.5? I'm currently doing 75 mg a day and not having any sides and on day 11. Also taking 50 mg winny.
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:19 PM
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Hold your elbow on one arm , exhale pull it in and then shoot. I am left handed so I shot the right lat...easy breezy.
Use a mirrror...
Or do what I do and have a loving GF who is a bit of a kink and likes giving me injects...
I have only had to give myself 2 injects.

Also, a trick from a nurse, hold an ice cube in one hand then inject. Your brain cannot procews both sensations at the same time so you will not even feel the pin. Make sure your hand is a little numb from the ice first.

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