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Old 10-27-2006, 06:56 AM
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Total cals will be between 2800-3200
I will prolly taper carbs as the day goes on, prolly because the heat will be too much!

As for carbs deplete I am no sure, if I am running it for 20+ days, I think I don't need too, but if you have any though on it being necessary I will listen.
If you are going to run @ 100mg for a 4 days or so, carb depletion really isn't necessary. DNP will do it for you.

If you are starting @ 200mg, than yes, carb deplete.

Reason I say this is because you won't lose any weight on 100, but on 200 you will. So, if you don't carb deplete on 200, the initial few days will be a waste.

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If you are going to run @ 100mg for a 4 days or so, carb depletion really isn't necessary. DNP will do it for you.

If you are starting @ 200mg, than yes, carb deplete.

Reason I say this is because you won't lose any weight on 100, but on 200 you will. So, if you don't carb deplete on 200, the initial few days will be a waste.

Make sense?
Okay so the real deal is :
If you carb deplete you don't waste DNP capsule to do it for you. (saved 800mg)
If you don't carb deplete your gonna waste 3-4 days of DNP (wasted 800mg)
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How did you do your carb depletion? Zero carbs or very low carb (10-25%)
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:08 AM
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Okay so the real deal is :
If you carb deplete you don't waste DNP capsule to do it for you. (saved 800mg)
If you don't carb deplete your gonna waste 3-4 days of DNP (wasted 800mg)
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How did you do your carb depletion? Zero carbs or very low carb (10-25%)
Starting tapering today, go very low tomorrow, and eat none (trace or whatever) on Sunday.

Again though, if you are doing 100, don't torture yourself with carb depletion. 100 IMO is a waste anyway.......unless there is some reason you think you will be allergic to it. Make sure you have some benadryl available in case you get a rash too bro.
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:11 AM
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Starting tapering today, go very low tomorrow, and eat none (trace or whatever) on Sunday.

Again though, if you are doing 100, don't torture yourself with carb depletion. 100 IMO is a waste anyway.......unless there is some reason you think you will be allergic to it. Make sure you have some benadryl available in case you get a rash too bro.
If you look at my plan, I nowhere stated starting at 100mg, it's surfer that was telling me to tip my toe first with 100mg, I won't bother doing so.

I am not starting today, I am starting November 6, so I will carb deplete on my week-end before starting off...
Thanks for your method that should be easy enough. except the with no carbs arsh, I hate those day with no savor

Benadryl bought baby, ready to go.
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If you look at my plan, I nowhere stated starting at 100mg, it's surfer that was telling me to tip my toe first with 100mg, I won't bother doing so.

I never recommended any dosage mate, I recommened that you try an alternative compound to reach your goal. If I was to recommend a dosgae I would probably go with the 100mg, not for fat burning purposes but so that I am aware of how my body will react to the substance. Its your first time and like any other substance the approach should be taken in small steps, IMO.

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Old 10-27-2006, 10:27 AM
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Youve never taken this stuff bfore so why are you planning such big doses. all you need is 20 day cycle at 100mg for first 5 days, 200mg x 5 days, 300mg x 5 days, and then 400mg x 5 days. Also, you might wanna rethink the diet to 33/33/33. Even at 33% carbs ive read about alot of ppl getting very hot from the carbs. And cardio every day? dont think that will be necessary. Ease into it bro, this sh*t isnt candy.
I am sorry it wasn't surfer that recommended 100mg it was mitchumstein

Sorry bro.
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:42 AM
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Okay I received my DNP today.
Friday I'll take all my measurement and will take my before pics on multiple angle.
Any input before I start friday is still welcome.

My current plan is written a bit higher in the post.

I'm all excited to see how it goes
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Good luck with it. From Jlozan's log, sounds like you might want to buy some extra deodarant and body spray from all the sweating...
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Good luck with it. From Jlozan's log, sounds like you might want to buy some extra deodarant and body spray from all the sweating...
Hahaha, I have some in my gym bag, in my office and at home too even in my secondary home.

Ready for all eventuality lol
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Good to see you started a log over @ Meso.
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I sold my DNP... i ran a couple runs of it... i MIGHT run it again, but its not in my immediate list of things to do... id rather run some t5 and some VitC. dnp was indeed gnarly, and the yellow output was even more gnarly
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:10 AM
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Good to see you started a log over @ Meso.
Yeah as there's not a lot of DNP lover here or people that knows alot about it, I decided Meso was the place to go.
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Im interested in how it goes. See how it fares with you like it did well with Jlozan.
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Im interested in how it goes. See how it fares with you like it did well with Jlozan.
Be sure Nite I will keep this log updated just has I will on Meso.
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Found this DNP manaul. Has everything you need to know on one page. Pretty cool.

http://www.premiermuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:23 AM
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Found this DNP manaul. Has everything you need to know on one page. Pretty cool.

http://www.premiermuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548
I have read all of this stuff already.

I think BB4U need a good informative thread on DNP as some on here are just misinformed. But I just can't copy the whole page and post it here, it's too long
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:22 AM
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200mg, down this morning.
Nothing apparent except the ECYA stack that kicks me hard, I feel like I'm on amphetamine... (I'm so not resistant to any stimulant, even coffee makes me all nervous)

BP kinda high on this stuff tho... 133... No good I know...

208lbs this morning. Will post measurement later on in the day and some pics tonite.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:25 AM
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Good luck homie........it doesn't kick in until the 2nd or 3rd day.

Might wanna add some Hawthorn Berries or CoQ10 for BP if it gets too high.
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