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Old 03-30-2006, 08:14 PM
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Week 1-3 - Halodrol 2 Tab - 100mg of Orastan E
Week 4 - Halodrol 2 Tab - 100mg Orastan E - 20mg SD
Week 5 - 30mg SD
Week 6 - 30mg SD - 2 Tabs 17 Alpha
Week 7 - 30mg SD - 4 Tabs 17 Alpha
Week 8 - 4 Tabs 17 Alpha - Rebound XT 100mg - Tribulus 2g @ 45% Sap
Week 9 - 4 Tabs 17 Alpha - RXT 75mg - Trib 2g
Week 10 - 2 Tabs 17 Alpha - RXT 50mg - Trib 1g
Week 11 - 1 Tab 17 Alpha - RXT 25mg - Trib 1g

Other Supplements
CoQ10 50mg
RYR 1.2g
Milk Thistle 1g
Haw. Ber. 565mg
Saw Pal. 900mg
Taurine 3g
Rhodiola 500mg
Tyrosine 400mg
MSM 500mg
Gluco. 500mg
Glutamine 4.5g
Ginseng Complex
Lipodrene w/ Ephedrine

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Universal Storm 1 Ser.
Universal Shock Therapy 1 Serv.
Kre-Alkalyn 5g
Taurine 3g
Tyrosine 400mg

17 Alpha = Irontek 17 Alpha Oxo Nolone - Most dont know what this product is.. i started a thread on it.. but.. its basically herbal viagra with some other good stuff in it.. i did a lot of research on the ingredients and the product actually seems legit.. i like Irontek products.. so i i figured why not.. the reg dosage is 2 tabs a day, but im doubling it for 3 weeks..



3/30/06 - I started my cycle today. I know its a thursday, but reviews on Halodrol say it takes a few days to kick in. I am going to use nolva on my pct, but i have yet to purchase it.. im not in a real rush, i have 8 weeks.. This cycle is a shorter/"safer" version of the one created by AX themselves.. in their cycle its an 8 week cycle of Phera & SD.. 5 weeks of each compound and stacking both on weeks 4-5.. the article is on their website with the info on Phera..

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218
12%BF.. put on 4lbs of fat because i had my wisdom teeth out 2 weeks ago and i pigged out
Bench - 275 x 3.. somewhere around 300
Dead Lift - 475
Squat - 315 x 14.. somewhere around 405
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Oh man, two harsh orals in one cycle. I bet your lipids are going to be really fudged up, but you are taking a lot of supps. It is still hard to dodge the cholesterol levels. But, good look man. I am sure will get some great gains out of that.
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Old 03-30-2006, 09:55 PM
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thanks.. halodrol isnt a harsh oral.. the sides of halodrol are a 6 on a scale of 100.. not the same for SD though.. but gains from SD are ridiculous.. im looking to put on a good 15+ lbs and get a ripped up in the process.. o and my cholesteral shouldnt be bad actually cuz of the hawthorne berries, ryr & cq10 plus im tkaing in about 55g of EFA's
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I actually didn't know that about halodrol. Some people told me that the sides were worse than sd. I guess that halodrol doesn 't produce the gains that sd does though. I think you will for sure meet your goals with that cycle. Good luck. Oh yeah, does halodrol require the same pct as sd or any other gear for that matter.
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i posted a thread on halodrol from a diff forum.. all u need to know plus or minus the "selling" of the product.. halodrol def has little to no sides.. person pending.. i know several people who have doubled the dosage and taken it for 8 weeks and still no sides.. which is ridiculous.. but gains from halodrol are like 10lbs+ weight and about 30lbs+ strength..average from everyone i personally know.. and far as pct wise.. rebound or novedex is all that is need for halodrol.. no nolva or anything
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just beacuse you don't see the sides on the outside dosent mean that your aren't ****ing your insides up. Yeah halodrol dosent have as bad of sides that sd does but its is still methalated. its good that you are taking the right ancillaries but to think that just novedex would be ok for pct when taking halodrol, i wouldn't recommend it i would always stick with the nolva. good luck with your cycle though.
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I would add some NAC for added liver protection. I would also have Nolva on hand...
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just beacuse you don't see the sides on the outside dosent mean that your aren't ****ing your insides up. Yeah halodrol dosent have as bad of sides that sd does but its is still methalated. its good that you are taking the right ancillaries but to think that just novedex would be ok for pct when taking halodrol, i wouldn't recommend it i would always stick with the nolva. good luck with your cycle though.
yeah i was just comparing it to extremely apparent effects of SD.. the only reason why i said no nolva for just halodrol is b/c novedex xt is one ridiculously potent estrogen blocker and halodrol really doesnt suppress LH production at the end of a cycle like SD.. but thanks dude. i hope this cycle lives up my expectations
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I would add some NAC for added liver protection. I would also have Nolva on hand...
you think the NAC will help a lot? ive never used it before..

and yeah im picking up some liquid nolva on my 3rd week of Halo.. i think im going to run a 40/30/20/10 dosage
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Well, taking two methylated orals is risky...I would want every possible liver protecting aid. NAC is supposed to be really good. They actually use it in hospitals to treat liver failure and acetaminophen overdose.
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yeah methylated orals can be toxic.. but you sold me on it. i'm gonna order some now so i can have it asap
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I don't think it costs too much either...
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i picked up some 600mg 120 caps for 12$.. not bad at all
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DAY 3

Ive decided to change my cycle just a bit... im ramping the halodrol dosage up to two pills a day..

Later today i will do deads.. ill post an update.. i hope there is an increase in weight.. but this is only my 3rd day

O yeah.. i cant wait to start wiling out.. (i mean, go nuts and moving massive amts of weights)
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DAY 3 RESULTS-

I felt great today..I dont know how else to put it. No apparent sides yet either...

Last Week
DeadLifts - 275 x 1
Step Ups - 315 x 16

Today
Dead Lifts - 275 x 2
Step Ups - 315 x 20
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4/2/2006 - Day 4

My "off day".. just some cardio..

Starting to get the random muscle pumps
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Day 5 -
Pretty good day for a workout on one hour of sleep.. bench stayed the same but incline db presses went up 4 reps... 95x8 today, last week 95 x 4.. all my other exercises besides bench increased as well.. im starting to get ripped up already and my abs are coming back.. i have zero water retention, no acne, and feel great besides the fact i havent slept.
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Is the lack of sleep from the gear or something else?
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Is the lack of sleep from the gear or something else?
nah, i'm in college and i had a proj for my calc class which took me ten hours to complete.. no exaggeration.. so i started 8:30 last night.. and i didnt finish till 11:30 this morning.. inverse trigometric functions and ****
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nah, i'm in college and i had a proj for my calc class which took me ten hours to complete.. no exaggeration.. so i started 8:30 last night.. and i didnt finish till 11:30 this morning.. inverse trigometric functions and ****
Sounds rough bro! It has been a while since I had any Calculus...I am not missing it at all...
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