MY FOURTH CYCLE starting late March or early April

[Tom185]

So i change my mind every few days...but i think this is my final decision...


Start: 185lbs. with 6-7% bodyfat
Goal: 200lbs. with 4-5% bodyfat


(1-4.5) 30mg Superdrol
(1-10) 750mg Test Enanthate
(6-12) 50mg ED Winny tabs
(13-16) 20mg Nolva
*NEED ADVISE ON A GOOD LEGAL NATURAL TEST BOOSTER


Liver: DS Perfect Cycle weeks 1-12
Skin: 3g Flaxseed Oil, Benzaclin Cream, Cetaphil Wash
Hair: Nizoral Shampoo, Saw Pawmetto
Protein absorption: 200mg B-6
Other: 4g Vitamin C, 800IU Vitamin E, Source of Life Multivitamin


Monday: Back, Forearms, Calves
Tuesday: Chest, Abs, (Cardio)
Wednesday: Legs, Calves
Thursday: Shoulders, Traps, Abs, (Cardio)
Friday: Tris, Calves
Saturday: Bis, Forearms, Abs, (Cardio)
Sunday: Off


Weights: 45-60 seconds rest between sets
Cardio: 5.5 mph (60%HR) for 30-40 mins


Protein: 250g (1,000 calories)
Complex Carbs: 400g (1,600 calories)
Simple Carbs: 180g (720 calories) Morning, Pre-workout, Post-workout ONLY
Fat: 40g (360 calories)
Total Calories: (3,600-3,800 calories)


Meals: 6-7 per day (Last meal is 40g Dorian Yates ProPeptide Casein powder)
Water: 1 gallon per day


Other stats can be seen below....

[Tom185]

oh yea and i forgot to add taurine for lower back cramps with the superdrol because they were HORRIBLE before....suggestions on dosage?

[t_dot_porkchop]

you need more fat in that diet IMHO...

as for taurine, i was taking a heaping teaspoon for M1T every night....about 5-6grams.

[Tom185]

I switched to 3x day of BN pro liver instead of DS perfect cycle

Youre right about the fat...those arent exact, just approximations...It will probably end up more towards 50g-70g of fat per day

[Tom185]

ok so my source is charging way too much for winny...so now its back to the drawing board of coming up with another cycle plan without the winny...I want to use an oral (SD or Dbol)...Test Enanthate...and a nice cutter other than winny...suggestions please...

[ryanbodybuilder]

you have a PM from me!

[Tom185]

im against the proviron because of the non-anabolic effects. I am considering EQ again, maybe some prop, or if i go with the winny i will just do 75mg EOD for 6 weeks......help......

[ryanbodybuilder]

i think you are missing the effects that proviron bring on..it blunts estrogen and helps test work better in the body! so its highly anabolic!!!!!! it will dry you up and help the test work better and ultimately that is huge for cutting.....are you trying to get winny injectable or oral? if pinning it 75mg eod is fine, however if oral just use 37.5mg ed for 6 weeks, its strong stuff!

[Tom185]

pinning the winny....hmm proviron is looking tempting.....

[ryanbodybuilder]

yea you should pin the winny 37.5mg ED!

[Tom185]

I thought you said 75mg eod injectable was fine...?

[ryanbodybuilder]

Originally Posted by Tom185

I thought you said 75mg eod injectable was fine...?

it is but 37.5mg ed is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better..winstrol doesnt have an ester so its used up within 12 hours...so why not try and keep blood levels as constant as possible? ideally you would split up 37.5mg into 2 injects per day!

[Tom185]

ok so if i decide to choose the winny....ill go with 37.5mg every 24 hours....

how do you feel about running prop instead of winny/proviron?

i know it works much differently...but i just want another opinion...

[Tom185]

hmmm and ryan since you are always the first to get back to me and seem very educated.....

how do u feel about splitting up the sd like this....

1-2 (30mg) superdrol
1-10 (750mg) test enanthate
7-12 (37.5mg ED) winstrol
11-12 (30mg) superdrol

or am i better off running the sd weeks 1-4

[ryanbodybuilder]

only run sd at the beginning of the cycle bro..for 3 weeks maximum i recommend...20-30mg for 3 weeks...and yea looks great with the winny

[Tom185]

just wondering, but why not run it at the end too?

(stole the idea from RRadam)

[Tom185]

...........and should i inject the winstrol every 12 hours at 18.75mg? or is 37.5 every 24 hours fine?