This thread is hilarious. I remember Violin player when I first joined the site. Hrpii is a true horseman. I've personally met him and Boyd. They are two men with abundant bodybuilding knowledge that I would look to for insight. Oh, and back to the main topic, ab workouts will build the muscle under the fat, like Jay5 said. Cardio can hurt mass gains, but not if you have a proper diet. I have lost 50lbs in the last several months, and I have been able to retain all my mass and strength.
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