Thanks for the reply, I was reading all night last night and researching the injectables and i want to do that so much more, way more effective and less dangerous to the liver. I would be able to get pins no prob, i know the sizes i need now and what not. This brings me to my other concern, i also read about purchasing online...i read ALOT about this. I read it a few years back but needed to brush up on the subject. I seem to be at a moral standstill, it said not to buy from a flashy sight, which...the site i am currently viewing is pretty flashy, but not well known (atleast to my knowledge). I was referred by an NCO at my last duty station, he is the last person i ever talked to about juice on a military base. unlike the civilian world, asking about steroids on a military installation is like saying hey lets go do a line of coke to some NCO's / officers, even some moto-ass enlisted. If anyone can PM me for some assistance , ill provide you with the address and you can help me lean in a direction i need to go on this. Like i said, im not in a super rush, I learn that with patience comes good things. Thanks for all the help so far guys