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Old 08-26-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Roehrigs01 Genera Supplements Epidrol Log Final Review…

Roehrigs01 Genera Supplements Epidrol Log Final Review…

Well, the end has come for my Epidrol cycle… used 1 bottle that was given to me to log by Genera and ran for 30 days exactly. Subject: 34, white male, ectomorph/hard gainer. Starting weight was 152.4, end weight 155.6 on the 30th day. Starting bf by bf scale was 10.0%, end was 10.0%, which computes to a change of +3.2lbs of LBM & +/-0lbs of bf.

Diet was average with a few brews over the 30 days…Took in about 2500-3000 cals a day.. 40p/40c/20f w/ some sporadic protein shakes thrown in when I think it is needed. I didn’t eat clean all of the time, but wasn’t eating crap all of the time either…

I started with 3 pills daily (30mg) per Genera’s request. The sides kicked in after a few days. Dosage was easy as I took 1 of each at 7am, 2pm, 9pm. At first, the backpumps at the gym were killing me…ended up throwing in some taurine (2-3g) pre-wo which helped nicely… The rest of the cycle was a breeze…

Sides experienced due to the Epidrol:
  • Painful back pumps when working out & some tightness in back usually 30mins after dosage.
  • Libido was fine throughout with a slow decrease of testicular size and amount of ‘load’ produced. No total shutdown experienced.
  • Face was oilier then usual with some increase in the amount of whitehead acne on forehead & shoulders.
Good: strength increased nicely (which is what I really wanted), added a few pounds of lbm as a hard gainer and side effects were minor.

Current Stats (1RM):
bench 187 (start: 163lbs) - Change of 15%
squat 211 (start: 163lbs) - Change of 29%
dead 283 (start: 223lbs) - Change of 27%
Sum BSD 681 (start: 549) - Ave Change of 24%


Bad: none really… back pumps were annoying but bearable w/ taurine. Really got tired of taking all those support supplements though…

Side notes: I did have some slight tendonitis of r. elbow and r. achilles tendon. Rest and the Cissus seemed to help it immensely. I don’t feel this cycle and the tendonitis are related though.

Other Supplements (ED):
Lift days:
-4cap ED Anabolic Innovation Life Support (cycle support)
-1cap ED Optimum Nutrition Melatonin at night (sleep support)
-3cap ED USPlabs SuperCissus Rx (joint/tendon support)
-3cap (3g) ED Vitamin World Taurine (backpumps) - 3g b4 gym
-2cap ED Vitamin World Potassium Chelated 99mg (backpumps) b4 gym
-3cap (1.5g) ED GNC No-Flush Niacin (lipid control)
-2cap ED Source Naturals Essential Fatty Acids (omega 3 & 6)
-2cap ED Costco Performance Multi-V

Off days:
-4cap ED Anabolic Innovation Life Support (cycle support)
-1cap ED Optimum Nutrition Melatonin at night (sleep support)
-3cap ED USPlabs SuperCissus Rx (joint/tendon support)
-3cap (1.5g) ED GNC No-Flush Niacin (lipid control)
-2cap ED Source Naturals Essential Fatty Acids (omega 3 & 6)
-2cap ED Costco Performance Multi-V


Would I do it again: Yes… as a pulse though to skip the support supplements & pct. As a full cycle, I might up it to 40mg daily to see how that effects me.

What I would change: 4k+ calories ED clean diet w/ protein shakes… I know I would never last on this, but is the way I think it would be maximized. 4 days per week in gym… liftin’ heavy…

Current status: I have completed my first week of the PCT… no problems…absolutely no sign of gyno…libido is fine…testes are about 75% the usual size and slowly coming back to full size… might drop the nolva early this week and see if I get any signs of delayed gyno..I expect not though on the delayed gyno coming..

What’s next for me: Well, right now… I am at the end of week 1 of pct… have 1 more week to go. After that, I will be doing a 2 week supplement ‘detox’ and will going down to minimum supplements for the last 2 weeks. Thinking just the multi-v, fish oil, nettle root, niacin and super cissus. I will still be working out as usual, as well. Sept 14th I have a lipid profile. I like my new routine and will be sticking with that for the next few months as I am planning to start a HAVOC/TRENADROL pulse on the 16th of September 07. Even though it is a pulse, I am interested in seeing if I can notice a difference between the Havoc and the Epidrol from this last cycle.
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