last year when i actually started lifting 'hardcore' lol i picked up No-Xplode and Cellmass *they sold as a pair on ebay and i heard about those going hand in hand* i also was taking on 100% whey and i had great gains, you can feel the difference you muscles feel like rocks, and you'll want o lift, the only sometimes dislikes are jitteryness and some diahrea every now and then but you'll live and i reccomend them.
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