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gymNut-
I think youre right. When I use a barbell I feel that I can keep things under control and not move around so much, when I use the dumbbells, I fell a lot of moving. I really shouldnt have tried it with the dumbbells, lesson learned.

TrainedMind-
Youre actually the second person I have heard that from. I have used NO in the past, plenty of times actaully, but I always used the barbell for shrugs too. Once I heal, I will pick up some NO again and give it another shot (with better form of course). Since you mentioned it, that makes two reliable sources so I will try on my next cycle.


TRAZ
I couldnt find any OTC stuff, but I just been streching it out a lot and its getting better. I am in that "OK, I'm not totally fvcked, just temporarily damaged" stage. Another week and I'll be set.

Thanks everyone, you guys rock!!