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Originally Posted by hmmm
I read that there may be pockets of water only several meters under the ice.
But i too think it may just be very simple life there. But there is always the chance.
There is other solar systems out their that have a sun with planets around it. All it takes it the right properties on the planet and there could very well be life. But what are the chances of intelligence like ours? I mean how many species of life are on our planet and their is only one which has intelligence like ours. For all we know the planet that sustains like is full of dogs and cats.
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Evolution works by keeping what fits and loosing what doesnt... I believe that sentinent life is something that will come to pass on any thriving planet... Once sentinent life evolves, the sentinent life forms pretty much reign on the planet, removing any related species either by force or more likely just by out hunting, fishing, settling, and out thinking.
Personally, I think any bipedal life form capable of understanding and using tools, is very close to developing into a sentinent life form... Tools allow a distinct advantage in everyday life, whether it's hunting, fishing, skinning, farming, you name it.. and to utilize tools effeciantly you must be able to think in abstract... the ability to use tools, then allows those that are smarter and able to think in more complex ways a distinct advantage over those that cannot... which will further speed evolutions hands toward the development of sentinent life.. ANd probably the most important tool on the road to sentinent beings is peace of coal and other writing empliments. Written language first just in picture and eventually in letter, is what allows us to teach each other complex ideas from generation to generation.
I very much believe sentinent life isn't all that odd of a development at all... Just like every other life form on this planet, they all developed to fill a niche... sentinent life is a niche aswell..
If you have a forests and limbs, and abundent life.. you will always have creatures evolve that will climb those trees... creatures that climb and live in tree's will develop hands to grasp limbs, the will develop a good eye sight, and will develope a good sense of balance as well as the ability to plot a course throught the tree's, which requires some abstract throught.. even utilizing branches to swing and bounce, is a step in the ability to use tools... once hands are developed to the point, that they can pick there nose and flick snot and poop at each other.. they are ready to pick up sticks and use tools... I'm certain this is a very natural progression on any planet given the correct balance of life giving conditions.
It's all meant to be this way.. It's completely normal.. and it happens all over the universe I'm sure...
You might think, well why don't we have sentinent life forms in the ocean? There is no niche in the ocean that would allow the neccessity for fish or ocean life to develope hands... There is no limbs to grab, all you need to do is swim.... the advantage of hands does not exist. A dolphin or whale can be the smartest creatures on the planet, but without hands to write with, they will never be able to accumulate knowledge.
I'm fairly confident in this... Is it not likely that what we expereince is normal circumstance of life... as opposed to thinking that somehow we beat all the odds? I think that way of thinking is foolish... How can we or anything in this universe do anything that wasn't meant to be done in the first place.. existance is far to big and far to ancient for us to fool.