[Taekwondo Guy]

Originally Posted by tryin2gain

I grow tired of your attacks on religion and christianity. You can have your opinion, but what gives you the right to insult christians and put words in other peoples mouths?

i'm not insulting christians, if i called you bible bashers then that would be out of order, i said bible folk....jeesh seriously, did you throw your toys out of the pram alot as a kid?

You act as if this issue is a hard hitting topic in churches across the nation. This is actually one of the first times i have seen someone make this issue into a religious debate. Are you desperate for a debate about religion?

Have i? Where?
See my earlier comments about previous threads debating christian views on evolution etc and how this post was started with christian faith in mind.
I could even spin it further by saying that the inital post was insensitive towards people of different faiths and is there a need to relate ET's to god? But thats another topic and a pointless errand to do so as its the internet.

What exactly are we covering our eyes to? The fact that there are many other star systems in our universe? That simply implies the probablity of other intelligent life, it is not proof. There is evidence and probability all around us, yet many people chose not to believe in it. Im sure there are examples of things you chose not to believe in or acknowlege that have substantial probability involved.

are you denying logic? Millions of stars, each having a minimum of half a dozen planets for example... logic says there is going to be life out there, its not a possibility.
People used to belive the world was flat, it was way before space travel that they realised it was unlogical to belive so... waiting for an ET to knock on your door is along the same line of thinking... outdated and lacking in logic.

As for "prove it, wheres the proof?" I have heard countless atheists ask christians that about god, and id be willing to bet youve done the same thing. Hypocrite?

yeah i've asked alot about god, mohammed, buddah and all the others, i've travelled around the world a bit and spoke to a fair few people from different cultures. My mind set is "the jury's out" and i'm waiting to get accounts from all peoples experiances, views and faiths.

Blindly believing in something, unchallenged and going with the masses is not me... hypocrite? no, far from it.... i like to open my eyes and try to find the world out for myself. You should do the same, you might broaden your on horizons...

While were on the subject of proof and certainty, it is important to realize that nothing is guaranteed, and unless you experience or see something first hand, you will never bee 100% certain. We all know abraham lincoln was once president of the united states, but did any of us ever see him or did any of us live during the time he was president? No, so any information we get is second hand at best, we are believing our sources, all our history books.

Histoy books is all propaganda to a small extent, unpopular events are not entered in school education, taboo historical people are not spoke of... history can be edited to omit or focus on anything and everything.

I think jesus did exhist, somebody must of caused such a commotion for people to still be talking of his work today. I think he was a charitable person, great public speaker who challenged peoples views on each other and society as a whole... etc etc A good person
Telling a story over 2 thousand years is going to get some extras added and alot of play on words,scenarios each time the bible is re-written.
A good story book, some truths, some myths....but the good morals are laid out.... my opinion.

It is a crude analogy, but its true. Nothing is certain until you see it firsthand, anything else is second hand information that requires a certain amount of "faith" (key word, often used in conjunction with religion) in order for you to accept it as fact. Even science has its faith, so dont bash christians for having theirs.

Science is based on fact, the sides of science that is based on theories is always said as being that until somebody proves otherwise...

I think you owe christians everywhere an apology for generalizing us and calling us names like "bible folk." Because I for one do not appreciate much of what you have said.

grow a thicker skin.... no racist comments, hardly a breach of TOS