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Originally Posted by Jetty3
"Looking for God--or Heaven--by exploring space is like reading or seeing all Shakespeare's plays in the hope that you will find Shakespeare as one of the characters..."
"A creature revolting against a creator is revolting against the source of his own powers--including even his power to revolt...It is like the scent of a flower trying to destroy the flower."
"When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all."
“It is in the process of being worshipped that God communicates His presence to men."
"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning..."
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First of all, atheism does not say the universe has no meaning. Presuming that it does displays a gross lack knowledge about atheism. Why does the universe only have meaning if God created it? This is a typical creationist tactic; take everything bad, and apply it solely to atheism. One can do the same thing with creationism. And both tactics are equal. The creationist, naturally, will outright deny this. But why is it more likely that a universe has no meaning if it lacks a creator God? There's no real reason. It is merely a creationist diversion. Since a creationist cannot speak on the same level, scientifically, they will attempt to make atheism seem to be a million things that it is not: immoral, wicked, harsh and hollow.
Which is no surprise when you consider that Christians have, at one point or another, labeled every other exisiting view in the world besides their own as the
wrong view.
Any morals derived from evolution would have to recognize the fact that humans have evolved to be social animals. In a social setting, cooperation and even altruism lead to better fitness. The process of evolution leads naturally to social animals such as humans developing ethical principles such as the Golden Rule.
As for the quotes; creationism is a blatant attempt at melding science with religion for the purposes of modernizing and justifying being Christian. It is an attempt at making faith seem reasonable by means of applying real world, scientific standards to a thing which crumbles when real world, scientific standards are applied to it. When creationists (and all other religious individuals) stop trying to press their religion as something that holds up to standards for observable things, their religion will sop crumbling under them.
Creationists are making a fantastic claim. Fantastic claims require fantastic evidence. So far, none of this fantastic evidence they need to present has been able to fit under a microscope, or any space whatsoever. The evidence isn't there.
I think one can be mystic while being realistic.