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Originally Posted by schmichael
okay, i must point out that i said you needed to refute either point one or point two to prove me wrong, which you have failed to do.
but to address your point about the universe having a beginning consider this.
from the Laws of Thermodynamics, the most fundamental laws of the physical sciences. - 1st Law: The total amount of mass-energy in the universe is constant.
- 2nd Law: The amount of energy available for work is running out, or entropy is increasing to a maximum.
If the total amount of mass-energy is limited, and the amount of usable energy is decreasing, then the universe cannot have existed forever, otherwise it would already have exhausted all usable energy—the ‘heat death’ of the universe. For example, all radioactive atoms would have decayed, every part of the universe would be the same temperature, and no further work would be possible. So the obvious corollary is that the universe began a finite time ago with a lot of usable energy, and is now running down. |
excellent points.
Also let me restate what someone already said. Science
cannot prove God.
But, there does exist something that can prove God. It is called the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit witnesses to those who ask in faith about the truth of God. The witness from that is undeniable. You may think this is BS, but it is not. It is real. I have experience it first hand more than once. The Holy Spirit has witnessed to me that God lives. And i do the same. God does live. He exists. He is our creator, and our Father. Without him we would not exist. Satan blinds man to be prideful and not recognize God. satan tells people that he himself doesnt exist to blind man that he may lead them to his own kingdom in hell. To deny this and mock this is because the pride of your own heart, and the lack of love toward God. Humble yourselves and ask God in prayer to find out for yourself. You only have to gain more than you can comprehend.