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Originally Posted by Fonz

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i think it get them really rip you need to bulk to get them big and then cut to show them. you cant really do both at the same time because the cardio and lack of calories wil prevent them from getting bigger.

What the crap? Get ripped abs and no mention of a diet at all? Most abs are made in the kitchen, not with crunches. That besides the fact that you can skip your triple-drop-super-triset crunches and swiss ball twists for weighted decline crunches and get just as much out of it. Plus it strengthens your core for big lifts.