Honestly I can't say myself as I havent tried those supps. Ephedra can be very effective, however it does have is potential side effects. Also I wouldn't recommend you use it at your age. As to Hot Rox, as you say, you put all the weight back on. Nuff said.
Stacking SesaThin and Green Tea caps/powder will def help you in either cutting down, or minimising fat accumulation during a bulk - in conjunction with good eating, a routine consisting of squats, deadlifts etc, and cardio such as sprints/interval training - and they're natural and healthy to boot.
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