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Looking for advice on gaining in the poundage department for bench press, I have read the do 3-5 reps with lots of weight and once a week only, lots of shoulder and tricep work too,,, but I am wondering what others do too?
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While not in my 40's, I am quickly approaching, and can see and feel the results of age on performance. What is working best for me is low volume, working the muscle twice a week. On bench for example, my ideal volume is 4 sets, every 4 days. On occasion I'll bump it to 6 sets, and sometimes down to 2 sets. I do best in the 2 to 5 rep range, 1 to 2 reps short of failure.
Just as when we are young, diet is just as important as we age, and rest is even more important. Here's my current workout Chest/shoulders/triceps Legs Back/traps/biceps Off Repeat Obviously what works for one doesnt work for another. You need to experiment to find your sweet spot on volume, intensity, and rest.
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make sure you just do every rep full and in control and the weights will go up higher than just trying to move more weight than you can handle with improper form. let the ego go, because who cares how much you bench if its not proper.. and either way youll get stronger and bigger faster doing it right.
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bench - 305x2 military press - 265x2 deadlift - 500x1 or 405x7 rack dead - 600x1 squat - 405x1 or 225x15 total = 1210 |
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Increase the intensity of your workout. Also DB presses (DB shoulder press, DB incline, DB bench press, etc)help a lot because you can go below parrallel and recruit more muscles and strengthen your ability to stablize higher amounts of weight when using the straight bar
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DB presses have HORRIBLE carry over to bench. You would be better off just benching than doing DB presses. Even something like incline BB doesn't have very good carry over to bench, so you can imagine the difference between DB and straight bar. Stick with the proven concepts, BB presses (Incline, shoulder, bench) dips and the like.
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I dunno about any program per se. I just pyramid my lifts, be they bench, deads or whatever. I figured out my one rep max, the started with 70% of that adding 5-10 pounds per set. Three or four sets for a couple of sessions, then add 5 pounds to the starting weight and repeat. Yes, I do stall, yes I will get fustrated, yes it does take a bit of time. But so far this has been working for me. I am not trying to get to any world records, just trying to see where it goes over a reasonable amount of time. I know actual weight lifted is a measure of success and progress, but it could also be a downer. If you fall into the 40+ crowd, you have to train twice as long as a 20 year old kid to make the same gains.
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I have a mind like a steel whatchamacallit Last edited by dogsoldier; 07-26-2007 at 09:17 PM. |
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Here is a great article: Bodybuilding.com - Mike Westerdal - Bench Press Blunders: Don't Let These 8 Mistakes Sabotage Your Bench!
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I made my best gains with this routine:
Monday: CHEST / TRI's pullovers Flat bench and incline bench(alternate weekly which is done first) Close Grip Bench Tuesday: LEGS Sumo Squat Calf Raise SLDL lunges Wed: rest Thurs: DELTS military press Seated 80 degree OH press Side Lateral Raise Cuban Rotation and Front Raise combo Fri: BACK / BI's Deadlift or Sumo deadlift Bent Over Row Rear Delt Row Curl or Reverse Curl (alternated weekly) For the chest, you can do both Incline and Flat for each workout but alternate heavy and light. For example, week 1, you go heavy (5 - 8 reps) on Flat bench and lighter (10 - 15 reps) on Incline. Week 2 you switch to heavy inclines and lighter flats.
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I changed to this bench sequence 1x per week and it gave me some very nice gains in total pounds. You first need to find your max. If not known, estimate. 3x3 - with 50lb less than max burnouts - strip bar by 1/2 weight and rep to failure. reps should be 20 or more pauses - with same weight as burnouts. 3 second pause at bottom and rep to failure. shoot for 15 or more reps. If you get these rep/weights, add 5 lbs to 3x3 next week and do again. If not, take 15 lbs off 3x3 bar and try again. I then do incline bench (rotate b/t bb and db) dips db flyes tricep isolate (rotate b/t push downs, skull crusher, close grip bench) reverse flyes |
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