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Old 05-28-2006, 02:04 AM
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Okay, decided to use some stuff I had laying around for PCT as stack instead since my SD cycle is way off in the future.

TwinLab Tribulous Fuel-2xday 1250mg total split dose morning/eve
Schiff DHEA-2 to 4 pills a day 25mg each morning
6-OXO-2 pills a day 600mg total eves
Dymatize Creatine Monohydrate-5 grams pre-workout

Starting stats:
True waist (at belly button) 34.5"
Pants size 33"
weight-175 pounds
Height-71"

Started loading creatine, using grape juice with it, each glass of grape juice is 160 (!) calories. Dosing 4 x a day to pre-load has me adding 640 calories from the grape juice alone!
Started all other pills today, start date 1 May.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:09 AM
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Stats week 1:
True waist (at belly button) 35"
Pants size 33" pants a little tight
weight-181 pounds

Effects noticed after one week-date-May 8

A little bloated from creatine loading, noticably less definition but....

libido up
strength up all lifts one more rep and 5 more pounds
energy much better

I started a new job and started Taekwondo, so now I walk 7-9 hours a day (approximately) in steel toe boots and then throw about 200+ kicks (each leg) at Taekwondo. Tired, but less so then I would be without the stack I bet.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:12 AM
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Stats week 2:
True waist (at belly button) 34.5"
Pants size 33" pants a little tight
weight-183 pounds

Effects noticed after one week-date-May 15

Bloating from creatine loading gone, definition improved.

libido up again
strength up all lifts one more rep and 5 more pounds again!

Work threw a loop in, switching to 3rd shift so sliding to 2nd, then a semi-3rd shift to adjust. What a pain in the butt, stack producing gains still though.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:17 AM
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Stats week 3:
True waist (at belly button) 34.25"
Pants size 33" pants fit good
weight-183 pounds

Effects noticed after week two-date-May 22

Girlfriend says my legs are bigger, and they seem larger in pants. Not doing any leg workout except Taekwondo and walking all day. Don't even let anyone say "squats hit all leg muscle groups" . BS, Taekwondo has located every muscle squats missed, legs constantly sore. In fact I go to the gym and do some leg workout to get rid of some soreness! Squats are out though, at least heavy ones.

libido up again
strength up all lifts one more rep no weight added though

Work threw a loop in, switching to 3rd shift so sliding to 2nd, then a semi-3rd shift to adjust. What a pain in the butt, stack producing gains still though.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:19 AM
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Week 4-last week

Stats week 4:
True waist (at belly button) 34.25"
Pants size 33" pants fit good
weight-183 pounds

Great stack, boosts libido, would have had more fat loss except work put me on third shift and I am drinking coffee and cokes like mad. Strength was up two reps and 10-15 pounds on each lift! Libido is like being mid 20's again. Highly recommend for those 35+.

Improvements I would do:
replacement stack:
Rebound Reloaded-better then 6-OXO
ActivaTE
7-OXO transdermal-replace the oral DHEA
add V12 turbo post workout with the creatine pre-workout

I added 8 pounds, probably 3 are muscle and the rest water from the creatine mono. I do better on creatine mono then CEE. Guess my muscle needs the water bloat. Taking a month off then doing the replacement stack. Seems like the creatine mono needs to be reloaded also after one month, so going off it completely for a month.
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Nice log Krenalor! I might recommend this stack to my dad...
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Have your Dad try the new stack, I was using up stuff that I was saving for PCT before I re-thought my PCT. Rebound Reloaded, ActivaTE, DHEA transdermal, and creatine will give him great results. Have him post the results after a month, I think we will both love the stack but I got a month off to "serve". I already miss my stack, thats how good it is.
Or he can let me test the new stack and use my old one, lol, it worked pretty well, and only good side effects.
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Well, getting my dad to do anything takes an act of congress...He wouldn't believe me about Cissus RX for the longest time...I will ask him about it, but I can't guarantee that he will do anything. He likes supps, but he only likes the ones that he knows for himself. It may take a while, but I will start plowing away!
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Good Job Bro. Nice log, glad to see that it worked out for you. The replacement Stack sounds better and probably even more effective. I agree with you working night sucks and messes up you're regular routine. Of sleep and eating.
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Ordered Rebound Reloaded and Powerfull, may make my own transdermal DHEA or order some, haven't decided yet. Started Creatine Mono loading, still prefer it for weight gain over CEE.

At the beginning of May's stack I was 175, I ended the stack at 183 and kept the weight. After one month though strength gains are halved. I dropped 10 pounds off most lifts, I need to get back on the (better) stack, I can't stand it, rofl. Oh, body fat is even better, need a new belt but I attribute that to my diet.
Curse night shift, I start every shift almost with 32 ounces of Coke. Yes baby thats 23 and 1/2 teaspoons of sugar! Okay, no more of that crap, got some gatorade and caffein pills instead.

Oh, worse news is I am 45 tomorrow 3 July.
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