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M4OHN
Technical Name:
17a-methyl-4 hydroxy nandrolone
Written by Pogue
Description:
M4OHN is an active hormone, it does not require a conversion to a target hormone such as 4AD Cyp. It is a Nandrolone derivative however the 4-OH group added inhibits a conversion to DHT (dihydrotestosterone) or DHN (dihydronandrolone) making this a mildly androgenic and highly anabolic compound. There is also no conversion to estrogen (Rubin et al. Endrocinol., 49, 1951, p. 429); or progesterone (McPhail, 3. Physiol. 83,1955, p. 145). Mg to Mg comparison M4OHN is 10x more anabolic then Anavar.
Benefits:
Increases in lean mass as well as moderate strength gains. Increased nitrogen retention, making the body a more anabolic environment. Central Nervous System (CNS) stimulation, not in a jittery ephedrine type feeling but you should be able to sleep less and still feel refreshed upon waking. Less time is needed for recovery between sets and workouts. There should be no decrease in sex drive, and should help with joint pain. Increases in the ability to lose fat while increasing vascularity.
Suggested Use:
8-16mgs per day (2-4 tablets) based on bodyweight or experience of individual. Always start with a lower dose and increase slowly every 5 days as needed. Do not use for longer then 6-8 weeks, followed by a full PCT.
Under 160lbs: 8mgs
160-175lbs: 10mgs
175-190lbs: 12mgs
190-205lbs: 14mgs
205lbs +: 16mgs
Stacking and Cycles:
Methyl-4OHN should work well in both bulking and cutting cycles depending on what type of diet/workout you are using as well as what other compounds it could is used with. The use of 600-800mgs of R-Ala per day is suggested when using any type of methylated compound.
Cutting cycles:
8-10mgs of M4OHN per day, 20-30mgs of M5AA preworkout only for 4-6 weeks.
8mgs M4OHN per day, 5-7mgs Methyl-Dien per day for 4 weeks.
400-600mgs per week of 1 Test Cyp and or 5AA Cyp, 8-16mgs M4OHN per day for 6-8 weeks.
Bulking cycles:
1200-1600mgs of either 4 AD Cyp, Pro-Sust or Sledge Test per week, 8-16mgs per day of M4OHN for 6-8 weeks.
60-90mgs of Methyl-14ADDiol per day, 8-10mgs of M4OHN per day for 4-6 weeks.
500mgs of 1 Test Cyp per week, 60mgs of Methyl-14ADDiol per day, 8mgs of M4OHN per day for 4-6 weeks.
Possible Side Effects:
this seems to be a very mild compound with few side effects. But all steroid hormones may cause acne, accelerated male pattern baldness, gynecomastia, testicle shrinkage, increased facial and body hair in men. As well as voice deepening and clitoral enlargement in females. This product should not be used by anyone under the age of 18 and always consult your physician before starting any new supplement.
'Methyl-Dien™’
Written by Loki
The chemically-structured 'little cousin' of Methyltrienolone-- one of the most potent steroids ever synthesized--'Methyldienolone,' which also goes by the names 'Methyl-Dien™' & it's true, structural designation 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one, is one of the newest & most intriguing 17-alpha-alkylated (i.e. 'methylated') androgens to have recently emerged in the PH/AAS market as of late.
Little true data exists concerning the use of methyldienolone in healthy human subjects, and-- at the moment I am writing this article-- user feedback concerning the compound simply does not exist to any significant degree. To my knowledge, at present, I am one of only roughly a half-dozen individuals in the United States to have used methyldienolone in a cycle. Thus, for the purposes of this piece, I will be relying more on my own individual experiences/observations with the compound, rather than lab assays & its presumed anabolic: androgenic activity ratio.
Methyldienolone, for all extents & purposes, can best be thought of as a highly orally bioavailable, non-aromatizing 19-Nortestosterone derivative that boasts a very anabolic and moderately androgenic profile. Just to give you an idea, methyldienolone is only a single double-bond away from the 'ubersteroid' 17a-Methyl-17b-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-Trien-3-one, one of the most anabolic (as well as hepatotoxic) steroids known to man.
In my own limited experience with the compound, methyldienolone is a rather singular androgen in its utter absence of effects on mood, energy levels, and SNS activity. While it is moderately androgenic (and thus has the penchant to produce any/all of the typical androgenic sides associated with PH/AAS use [acne, hair loss, prostate hypertrophy, et. al.]), methyldienolone does not appear to have any significant effect on energy levels, appetite, aggression/complacency, or cognitive capacity. Furthermore, given its close structural similarities to methyltrienolone (as well as its tremendous potency), methyldienolone has to be considered the most hepatotoxic commercially-available 17aa-androgen at present. Still, it is my own personal opinion-- based on an extensive perusal of steroid studies & tests from the past several decades-- that this risk is generally overemphasized when discussing methylated compounds, and is not something that should be considered 'truly dangerous' for a healthy, fit male subject using it in moderation. Nonetheless, just because a phenomenon is not overly dangerous does not mean that some danger does not exist, and use of 17aa-androgens certainly could pose a risk if misused or abused. Thus, as with all 17aa-androgens, those with prior liver conditions &/or concerns in this regard should make sure they exercise the utmost caution if they choose to pursue methyldienolone for personal use.
In terms of its anabolic capabilities, methyldienolone is, without doubt, the most potent (on a mg/mg basis), widely-available 17aa-androgen that one can currently obtain 'legally' (Author's note: Although it is important to note that the actual 'legality' of this class of compounds [re: 17aa-androgens] in compliance with the terms of DSHEA should be considered 'questionable' at best). As a comparison, 1mg of methyldienolone seems to be equivalent, anabolically, to ~8-12mg of 17aa-1-Testosterone (also known as Methyl-1-Test). Impressive (and often rapid) LBM gains (even in the face of a caloric deficit), marginal strength increases, and noticeable aesthetic improvements in vascularity, muscle hardness & fullness, as well as a visible 'leaning out' effect are all facets to methyldienolone use that I have witnessed first-hand.
As a stand-alone androgen, methyldienolone should be used @ 1-3mg/day. Heavily experienced &/or much larger lifters might do better with 4-5mg/day (although it is still recommended that one starts low and builds up, for purposes of assessing tolerance & its effects), and I do not feel that there is any need whatsoever to exceed the 5mg/day dose-range. 750mcg-1000mcg (1mg) of methyldienolone can also be used in stacks with other androgens as well, although it is NOT recommended that one attempt to use methyldienolone in conjunction with aromatizing androgens such as 4-androstenediol (4AD) due to the potential incidence of progesterone-induced side-effects, which can negatively affect mood, skin appearance, insulin sensitivity, and vascularity, among other potentially-detrimental occurrences/conditions.
How to make Oral Solutions from Powders!
Written by Sledge
Directions for Oral solutions:
Method 1 - Olive Oil Oral Solution 10mg/ml
(For M1T and M4AD only)
1gm M1T
96ml extra virgin olive oil
1ml BA
2mlBB
Heat for 10 min and let cool and you have a 10mg/ml solution.
Method 2 - Everclear or Bacardi 151 Oral Solution 10mg/ml
(For M1T and M4AD only)
1gm Methyl-1 Test powder
99ml Everclear or 151
Allow to dissolve.
Method 3 - ( For M5AA, M1T, M4AD)
1 gm powder
25 ml Peg 400
73ml Propylene Glycol
Heat for 15-20 min and let it cool before use. Methyl-5AA may need to be heated slightly before use.
Method 4 - (For Methyl 1,4 ADDiol)
99ml PEG 400
1 Gram Methyl 1,4ADD
Heat for 10 Minutes in a water bath
Yields 100 10mg/ml servings
M4OHN 2mg/ml solution
1gm M4OHN powder
mix with 499ml peg 400
heat in a water bath on the stove (low heat) for 30-45 minutes.
M4OHN 5mg/ml "suspenison"
1gm M4OHN powder
mix with 185ml Olive oilm, 6ml BA (Benzyl Alchohol), 10ml BB (Benzyl Benzoate)
heat for 30-45 min in a water bath on the stove (low heat)
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